From: dblack@... Date: 2007-05-06T02:08:47+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby love Hi -- On Sat, 5 May 2007, Gregory Brown wrote: > On 5/5/07, dblack@wobblini.net wrote: > >> It may be time to try again, in one way or another. > > To attempt to make this constructive rather than critical... How can we do > this? I was being constructive, just vague :-) I admit that "one way or another" isn't a very detailed roadmap. But that's part of the problem, for me. I'm not sure what the roadmap would look like. > This question has been tumbling around in my local users groups, among > developers on projects I'm involved with, and in the hallway track at > conferences I've been to. > > How can we kill the stigma? I think that's our biggest > responsibility, as it's something that requires our participation. I > only fear that it starts way before the open source community in terms > of social and intellectual development... Also, it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, or something -- meaning, the idea that technical discourse is of interest only to men may result in a skewing of the population that then gets compounded over time. David -- Q. What is THE Ruby book for Rails developers? A. RUBY FOR RAILS by David A. Black (http://www.manning.com/black) (See what readers are saying! http://www.rubypal.com/r4rrevs.pdf) Q. Where can I get Ruby/Rails on-site training, consulting, coaching? A. Ruby Power and Light, LLC (http://www.rubypal.com)