From: Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...>
Date: 2008-10-07T23:47:35+09:00
Subject: Re: Why not adopt "Python Style" indentation for Ruby?

2008/10/7 Frasier Mruby <flyingkite@edoors.com>:
> I am kind of new to ruby and like it after looking python first.
[...]
> I have to mention in the first line of each post.  I agree the idea of
> closing a code block with something like "END", but suggest to use
> something else to replace it such as "{ }".

How about first learning and using the language instead of suggesting
changes right away?

>>Have you written to any C mailing lists, suggesting that C adopt
>>features from Ruby?
> If you felt insulted when some people ask if ruby could make improvement
> in future on its syntax, I feel sorry for that and think people could be
> better off to have an opener mind.

What about you?  How open is your mind?

>  Event if I didn't write to any C
> mailing list asking C to improve its syntax, but there are much chances
> that some other people had written to Java mailing list ask java to
> adopt some nice feature from ruby or other languages.  That might be the
> reason in jdk1.5 there were some syntax improvement like the adoption of
> Generics. In future release, Python might have considered to remove
> "self" as suggested by someone who wrote to python mailing list.  It's a
> common scenario that suggestions were brought up to ask the possibility
> of syntax improvement,just like the first article in this thread posted
> by someone else.

Well, but well thought out suggestions with a realistic perspective of
realization need good understanding of the matter. And with changes in
programming language syntax matters are always quite complicated - if
only for the thousands or millions of lines of code that might be
affected.

>>It's been discussed a million times over many years, if that's what
>>you mean.
> If the "END" will not be considered to be replaced, then I suggest ruby
> forum people be better off to add a FAQ page so that to prevent other
> people from asking the same question again and again, since probably I
> am not the only person who are concerned with the "END".

You can easily search the archives of this list and find out.  Note:
you could have done it /before/ jumping right into the next language
change discussion.

> I will take other's advice and use more and get myself familiar with
> it.Thank you for your time.

That's a good course of action.

Regards

robert

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