From: anansi <kazaam@...>
Date: 2007-05-04T00:30:19+09:00
Subject: Re: how to increase the width of a field in rails

@Rick DeNatale :
First, thx for this really great delicious link. Second, of course it is 
obvious that I would get more answers on a rails list but as said: at 
least at the moment I see absolutly no need to sign-up with google just 
to get an answer I can simply get here.

I also don't think it as spamming as your posting sounds like because 
that's a ruby-list and all my question are strictly and only related to 
ruby and no other programming language so posting in a C group would be 
totally different...

And the rest I don't get right: you think I'm posting here if I would 
see a better or faster way to get the same information by myself?!? 
makes not much sense.. at least in my eyes...

And you can be sure I penetrated google before I'm asking here. I mean 
now that I know that text_area is affected in this issue it is easy to 
find the right answer with google but try to find it without this 
keyword... I didn't succeed so I asked here, got an answer and that's 
it. Next time I don't have to ask how to change these views because now 
I know the meaning of render :partial =>...  Before come's answer here I 
didn't even expect it to have something to do with my issue.

I really don't get why some ppl are now feeling pissed of by me...


> On 5/3/07, anansi <kazaam@oleco.net> wrote:
> 
>> well first of all I didn't knew that this newsgroup is limited to just
>> some aspects of ruby, maybe you should do some white- or black-listing
>> on topics if you think mine wouldn't fit here.
>> But every question I droped was answered here very fast and correclty
>> because as I thought it is obvious that many ppl who uses the Rails
>> framework also suscribed to the ruby-list.
> 
> This may be, but in general, you'll find more rails expertise on the
> rails group.  I've seen lots of rails-related questions go unanswered
> here because no one with the right rails knowledge saw it.
> 
>> And about the rails (not mailing- and not newsgroup) but google.group:
>> you really think it's clever to be forced to register (when I wanna sign
>> up to this list I always get: "You must sign in to Google to complete
>> the previous action.") to one of the greatest commercial companys on the
>> planet in order to get knowledge about one of the most free programming
>> languages on the planet? I don't think so ;)
> 
> That's a question for the rails community rather than the general ruby
> community, and even though it might be a catch-22 situation, the ruby
> list is where it should be raised.
> 
>> I mean, I'm sure you also realized that ruby never succeded in the step
>> to spread his information over http and any good forums or websites
>> about ruby are more rare than unicorns...
> 
> Hmm, you must not be looking very hard.  I've got about 50 different
> Ruby oriented blogs in the list of rss feeds I look at.  You might
> also want to use resources like del.icio.us.
> http://del.icio.us/popular/ruby
> 
> And my most valuable tool in finding information about ruby, or
> anything else is http://www.google.com although again for you that
> might be a catch-22.
> 
> This isn't directed at you personally, but a lot of questions get
> asked here and on other fora which exhibit evidence that the
> questioner hasn't done his homework before asking the question.
> Questions are much more likely to get answered if the question shows
> that the questioner has tried to solve the problem himself first, and
> gives clear context information about where he's gotten stuck.
> 
> Of course this is just reiterating part of the canonical exposition on
> how to ask smart questions:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> 
>> so please let me this
>> newsgroup because it kicks ass :)
> 
> No one says you can't, just don't be surprised if you don't get all of
> your rails questions answered, and occasionally get a response which
> suggests checking the rails group.
> 
> Again quoting ESR:
> 
> "Know what your topic is! One of the classic mistakes is asking
> questions about the Unix or Windows programming interface in a forum
> devoted to a language or library or tool portable across both. If you
> don't understand why this is a blunder, you'd be best off not asking
> any questions at all until you get it."
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#forum
> 
> This seems to map directly to asking about rails in a ruby-language
> forum.  If this were a more typical usenet technical forum you might
> get treated much more rudely.
> 
> Luckily , for all of us, ruby-lang seems to be one of the more genteel
> forums on the "interwebs".
> 
> 


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