[#147004] How and where Fixnum are created — "Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira Jr." <eustaquiorangel@...>

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10 messages 2005/07/01

[#147009] no clue — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

I thought for all of five seconds for a good subject line for this

36 messages 2005/07/01
[#147028] Re: no clue — Daniel Brockman <daniel@...> 2005/07/02

Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@gmail.com> writes:

[#151840] Re: no clue — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...> 2005/08/12

On 7/1/05, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se> wrote:

[#151998] Re: no clue — Simon Krer <SimonKroeger@...> 2005/08/12

[#152051] Re: no clue — Simon Krer <SimonKroeger@...> 2005/08/13

Hi Joe,

[#152078] Re: no clue — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...> 2005/08/13

On 8/13/05, Simon Krer <SimonKroeger@gmx.de> wrote:

[#152089] Re: no clue — Simon Krer <SimonKroeger@...> 2005/08/13

[#152093] Re: no clue — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...> 2005/08/14

On 8/13/05, Simon Krer <SimonKroeger@gmx.de> wrote:

[#147044] Loading a file without cluttering the global namespace — Benjamin Hepp <benjamin-hepp@...>

Hello,

11 messages 2005/07/02

[#147056] class variable leading a double life — "Amarison" <amarison@...>

Can someone please explain why the @var variable leads a double life? One

20 messages 2005/07/02

[#147153] Ruby under Cygwin problems — JZ <usenet@...>

Whatever Ruby module I want to install under Cygwin I always get the same

30 messages 2005/07/04
[#147236] Re: Ruby under Cygwin problems — "karlin.fox@..." <karlin.fox@...> 2005/07/05

> No this is not the problem, it's just one more of this quick and dirty hacks (that i don't like in ruby).

[#147239] Re: Ruby under Cygwin problems — "Ryan Leavengood" <mrcode@...> 2005/07/05

karlin.fox@gmail.com said:

[#147280] Extract/Parse String? — tuyet.ctn@...

How do I extract "treeframe1120266500902" from this String class

12 messages 2005/07/06

[#147300] Inheriting Array and slice() behaviour — Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain.joyeux@...>

I have a class inheriting Array, and I expected slice() and []

43 messages 2005/07/06
[#147327] Re: Inheriting Array and slice() behaviour — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/07/06

Hi,

[#147348] Re: Inheriting Array and slice() behaviour — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2005/07/06

William Morgan <wmorgan-ruby-talk@masanjin.net> wrote:

[#147437] Re: Inheriting Array and slice() behaviour — William Morgan <wmorgan-ruby-talk@...> 2005/07/07

Excerpts from Robert Klemme's mail of 6 Jul 2005 (EDT):

[#147443] Re: Inheriting Array and slice() behaviour — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/07/07

On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, William Morgan wrote:

[#147465] Re: Inheriting Array and slice() behaviour — William Morgan <wmorgan-ruby-talk@...> 2005/07/07

Excerpts from Ara.T.Howard's mail of 7 Jul 2005 (EDT):

[#147483] Re: Inheriting Array and slice() behaviour — Pit Capitain <pit@...> 2005/07/07

William Morgan schrieb:

[#147355] Major web host supports Rails — bertrandmuscle@...

One of the biggest web hosts on the internet (Dreamhost) now supports

32 messages 2005/07/06
[#147761] Re: Major web host supports Rails — Dennis Roberts <denrober@...> 2005/07/11

Want to support Ruby? Use Textdrive (http://www.textdrive.com/).

[#147421] Ruby as mathematical language — "none" <webb.sprague@...>

Hi Ruby world.

27 messages 2005/07/07

[#147504] ruby-1.8.2: test.rb: Seg Fault in test_check "exception" — me2faster@...

I reduced the sample/test.rb to just the test_check "exception"

12 messages 2005/07/07

[#147506] Ruby in XML. — John Carter <john.carter@...>

I have just stuck this on..

16 messages 2005/07/08

[#147542] Re: accessing index inside map — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

nobuyoshi nakada [mailto:nobuyoshi.nakada@ge.com] wrote:

26 messages 2005/07/08
[#147548] Re: accessing index inside map — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2005/07/08

Pe, Botp wrote:

[#147651] Strings vs arrays — Luke Worth <luke@...>

Hi.

25 messages 2005/07/09
[#147670] Re: Strings vs arrays — Daniel Brockman <daniel@...> 2005/07/09

Luke Worth <luke@worth.id.au> writes:

[#147711] Programming the Lego robots using Ruby technology. — Victor Reyes <victor.reyes@...>

Do anyone knows if there is a Ruby API to program the Lego robots?

8 messages 2005/07/10
[#147712] Re: Programming the Lego robots using Ruby technology. — "daz" <dooby@...10.karoo.co.uk> 2005/07/11

[#147720] Re: accessing index inside map — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

Yukihiro Matsumoto [mailto:matz@ruby-lang.org] wrote:

28 messages 2005/07/11
[#147722] Re: accessing index inside map — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/07/11

Hi,

[#147790] class_attr_accessor — "Jeffrey Moss" <jeff@...>

I was playing around with class variables and class instance variables

16 messages 2005/07/11

[#147895] Updating GUIs — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Hi,

22 messages 2005/07/12

[#147952] Initialization via a Module — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

I have a module that needs to set a few instance variables on the

17 messages 2005/07/13

[#148046] Ruby has ruined my C++ — John Carter <john.carter@...>

These are exciting days in the world of C++. Every month the C/C++ User

52 messages 2005/07/13
[#148152] Re: Ruby has ruined my Java (was Re: Ruby has ruined my C++) — Kero <kero@...> 2005/07/14

> Two!

[#148497] Re: ] Re: Ruby has ruined my Java (was Re: Ruby has ruined my C++) — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...> 2005/07/17

> After 4 years, Ruby still hasn't ruined itself.

[#148630] Re: ] Re: Ruby has ruined my Java (was Re: Ruby has ruined my C++) — mathew <meta@...> 2005/07/18

tony summerfelt wrote:

[#148709] Re: ] Re: Ruby has ruined my Java (was Re: Ruby has ruined my C++) — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/07/18

Let's say that I have this...friend...um yea. And this 'friend' was

[#148711] Re: ] Re: Ruby has ruined my Java (was Re: Ruby has ruined my C++) — Jacob Fugal <lukfugl@...> 2005/07/18

On 7/18/05, Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@gmail.com> wrote:

[#148811] Re: ] Re: Ruby has ruined my Java (was Re: Ruby has ruined my C++) — Kero <kero@...> 2005/07/19

> Ha! You've reproduced my code almost exactly :)

[#148067] Ruby momentum? — Preston Crawford <me@...>

I'm an outsider to the Ruby community. I've used it a time or two,

62 messages 2005/07/14
[#148248] Re: Ruby momentum? — "gregarican" <greg.kujawa@...> 2005/07/15

Zach Dennis wrote:

[#148303] Re: Ruby momentum? — Devin Mullins <twifkak@...> 2005/07/15

Where I work (and I imagine most places), they don't bring developers on

[#148583] Re: Ruby momentum? — tsuraan <tsuraan@...> 2005/07/18

> *Actually when I've mentioned Ruby at work it's inspired more often a

[#148594] Re: Ruby momentum? — Kirk Haines <khaines@...> 2005/07/18

On Monday 18 July 2005 7:41 am, tsuraan wrote:

[#148104] difference? — G畸or SEBESTYノN <segabor@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2005/07/14

[#148229] Sampling (#39) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

97 messages 2005/07/15
[#148233] Re: [QUIZ] Sampling (#39) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/07/15

On Jul 15, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Ruby Quiz wrote:

[#148269] Re: [QUIZ] Sampling (#39) — Cassio Pennachin <pennachin@...> 2005/07/15

On 7/15/05, James Edward Gray II <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#148273] Re: [QUIZ] Sampling (#39) — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/07/15

* Cassio Pennachin <pennachin@gmail.com> [2005-07-16 03:04:12 +0900]:

[#148275] Re: [QUIZ] Sampling (#39) — Cassio Pennachin <pennachin@...> 2005/07/15

> Shouldn't those number be more like

[#148276] Re: [QUIZ] Sampling (#39) — Belorion <belorion@...> 2005/07/15

On 7/15/05, Cassio Pennachin <pennachin@gmail.com> wrote:

[#148284] Re: [QUIZ] Sampling (#39) — David Brady <ruby_talk@...> 2005/07/15

Belorion wrote:

[#148317] What does this construct mean? — "Casper" <caspertonka@...>

1. class MyController < ActionController::Base

22 messages 2005/07/16
[#148651] Re: What does this construct mean? — "Casper" <caspertonka@...> 2005/07/18

Devin Mullins wrote:

[#148656] Re: What does this construct mean? — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/07/18

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Casper wrote:

[#148321] Cascading <=> comparisons — Garance A Drosehn <drosihn@...>

Let's say I have a hash with some values in it, and I want to

15 messages 2005/07/16

[#148338] delaying string evaluation — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2005/07/16
[#148339] Re: delaying string evaluation — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2005/07/16

On 16 Jul 2005, at 01:23, Navindra Umanee wrote:

[#148361] Re: delaying string evaluation — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/07/16

Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:

[#148341] Just seen on c.l.py — Stephen Kellett <snail@...>

Hi Folks,

23 messages 2005/07/16
[#148418] Re: Just seen on c.l.py — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/07/16

In article <05th9VCgqN2CFwW4@objmedia.demon.co.uk>,

[#148357] Ruby VS PHP — Tristan Knowles <cydonia_1@...>

I was chatting with a PHP dev friend tonight, he is a

38 messages 2005/07/16
[#148396] Re: Ruby VS PHP — schlu-do@... (Dominik Schlter) 2005/07/16

Hi,

[#148384] `not' in parameter lists — Daniel Brockman <daniel@...>

I just noticed that all of the following give syntax errors:

18 messages 2005/07/16

[#148402] Nonblocking Sockets — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

Is this the "standard" way to make a nonblocking Socket in Ruby?

16 messages 2005/07/16

[#148542] Refactoring Tycho API - Opinions wanted — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

I've been revisiting my favorite Ruby project in the past

24 messages 2005/07/18

[#148689] Re: `not' in parameter lists — twifkak@...

On Jul 17, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Daniel Brockman wrote:

13 messages 2005/07/18

[#148721] Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — "SomeDude" <somedude@...>

Hello,

108 messages 2005/07/18
[#148736] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — vanek@... 2005/07/19

If you don't need to get involved in web programming right away, gawk

[#148743] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/07/19

vanek@acd.net wrote:

[#148751] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...> 2005/07/19

James Britt <james_b@neurogami.com> wrote:

[#148752] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Stefan Lang <langstefan@...> 2005/07/19

On Tuesday 19 July 2005 09:41, Navindra Umanee wrote:

[#148783] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Mark Volkmann <r.mark.volkmann@...> 2005/07/19

On 7/19/05, Stefan Lang <langstefan@gmx.at> wrote:

[#148870] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/07/19

Mark Volkmann wrote:

[#148873] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/07/19

> In Java, classes aren't objects.

[#148875] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Devin Mullins <twifkak@...> 2005/07/19

Daniel Amelang wrote:

[#148880] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — "Adam P. Jenkins" <thorin@...> 2005/07/20

Devin Mullins wrote:

[#148961] Re: [WAY OT] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/07/20

In article <Pine.LNX.4.62.0507192121430.10750@harp.ngdc.noaa.gov>,

[#148969] Re: [WAY OT] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Rick Nooner <rick@...> 2005/07/20

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 02:05:56AM +0900, Phil Tomson wrote:

[#148972] Re: [WAY OT] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/07/20

* Rick Nooner <rick@nooner.net> [2005-07-21 02:59:56 +0900]:

[#148975] Re: [WAY OT] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Rick Nooner <rick@...> 2005/07/20

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 03:21:08AM +0900, Jim Freeze wrote:

[#148988] Re: [WAY OT] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/07/20

* Rick Nooner <rick@nooner.net> [2005-07-21 03:57:35 +0900]:

[#148993] Re: [WAY OT] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Rick Nooner <rick@...> 2005/07/20

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 04:47:41AM +0900, Jim Freeze wrote:

[#149008] Ruby/OCaml Was Re: [WAY OT] Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? — Rick Nooner <rick@...> 2005/07/20

> I was just at the OCaml site,

[#148730] Memory profiling? — Scott Ellsworth <scott@...>

Hi, all.

12 messages 2005/07/19

[#148763] nil for unassigned keys — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

Sometimes I find myself writing :key=>true,

17 messages 2005/07/19

[#149035] C extension makes things slower — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

In general I've always seen things speed up when I've writtten C

16 messages 2005/07/21

[#149059] Segmentation fault with a threads/forks script — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2005/07/21
[#149069] Re: [BUG] Segmentation fault with a threads/forks script — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/07/21

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

[#149153] FreeRIDE: Where does the output go? — "basi" <basi_lio@...>

I'm trying out FreeRIDE and I have a truly embarrassing question.

15 messages 2005/07/22

[#149184] Drawing Trees (#40) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

18 messages 2005/07/22

[#149198] Abstract class or interface? — EdUarDo <eduardo.yanezNOSPAM@...>

Hi all again :),

13 messages 2005/07/22

[#149286] Local Instance Methods — "Trans" <transfire@...>

Hi All--

25 messages 2005/07/23

[#149302] Any interest in writing gui library on top of qtruby? — meruby@...

wax is a gui written on top of wxPython. It allows seamless integration

19 messages 2005/07/23

[#149322] Lisp on Lines — "luke" <lduncalfe@...>

Read on the comp.lang.lisp group that someone is developing 'Lisp on Lines'

44 messages 2005/07/24
[#149343] Re: Lisp on Lines — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/07/24

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, luke wrote:

[#149366] Re: Lisp on Lines — "William James" <w_a_x_man@...> 2005/07/24

How much less powerful than Lisp is Ruby?

[#149397] Nitro + Og 0.21.0 Compiler, Og custom joins, Og dynamic injection, new builder — "George Moschovitis" <george.moschovitis@...>

Hello everyone,

13 messages 2005/07/25

[#149481] What's so special about operators, built-in classes and modules? — Jim Freeze <jim@...>

I just noticed this little quirk. Is there something

30 messages 2005/07/25

[#149490] Trying to understand symbols — "Sam Kong" <sam.s.kong@...>

Hello!

18 messages 2005/07/25

[#149515] Factory Patterns in Ruby — Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@...>

Factory is a very common pattern in the java world, in some places

17 messages 2005/07/26

[#149555] — "Adrian Petru Dimulescu" <adrian.dimulescu@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2005/07/26

[#149616] Next Official Ruby Version

Is it somehow planned to build a new official Ruby before Ruby 2, that means a version called 1.10 or so?

26 messages 2005/07/26

[#149654] (X)Emacs users going to RubyCOnf — Forrest Chang <fkc_email-news@...>

Hi All:

14 messages 2005/07/27

[#149720] Re: What's so special about operators, built-in classes and modules? — twifkak@...

>Then you will have complex network of classes instead of simple tree

56 messages 2005/07/27
[#149765] Re: What's so special about operators, built-in classes and modules? — Daniel Brockman <daniel@...> 2005/07/28

gabriele renzi <surrender_it@remove-yahoo.it> writes:

[#149770] Re: What's so special about operators, built-in classes and modules? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/07/28

Hi,

[#149772] Re: What's so special about operators, built-in classes and modules? — Devin Mullins <twifkak@...> 2005/07/28

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#149773] Re: What's so special about operators, built-in classes and modules? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/07/28

Hi,

[#149776] Re: What's so special about operators, built-in classes and modules? — Devin Mullins <twifkak@...> 2005/07/28

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#149905] Re: What's so special about operators, built-in classes and modules? — Daniel Brockman <daniel@...> 2005/07/28

Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> writes:

[#149783] Ruby in embedded applications — "treefrog" <stephen.hill@...>

Hi folks,

14 messages 2005/07/28

[#149793] Idea for Ruby 2.0 — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...>

Lately I've found myself using pseudo-anonymous variables a lot, e.g.,

24 messages 2005/07/28

[#149801] Combination of two arrays — Claus Spitzer <docboobenstein@...>

Greetings!

18 messages 2005/07/28

[#149876] Linux Journal article on Ruby — pat eyler <pat.eyler@...>

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8356 it's always nice to see another

13 messages 2005/07/28

[#149968] Which Regex-Engine will be used in Ruby 1.8.3 Release?

One short question.

12 messages 2005/07/29

[#149982] Chopping the beginning of a string elegantly — "francisrammeloo@..." <francisrammeloo@...>

Hi all,

13 messages 2005/07/29

[#150133] Ruby-Python; using python from within ruby — "Norjee" <Norjee@...>

At the moment I'm looking at rails, it seems like a great framework.

13 messages 2005/07/30

[#150154] Ruby-Oniguruma interoperability on Named Groups

Let me first explain the reason for and the kind of this message.

10 messages 2005/07/30

[#150205] Yet Another useless Ruby 2 Idea — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...>

Hi gurus and nubys,

69 messages 2005/07/31
[#150680] Re: Yet Another useless Ruby 2 Idea — Daniel Brockman <daniel@...> 2005/08/04

Jeff Wood <jeff.darklight@gmail.com> writes:

[#150684] Re: Yet Another useless Ruby 2 Idea — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/08/04

On 8/3/05, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se> wrote:

[#150688] Re: Yet Another useless Ruby 2 Idea — Jeff Wood <jeff.darklight@...> 2005/08/04

I'm not saying there are NO features of python that are cool... I like

[#150860] Re: Yet Another useless Ruby 2 Idea — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/08/05

Jeff Wood ha scritto:

[#150899] Re: Yet Another useless Ruby 2 Idea — Jacob Fugal <lukfugl@...> 2005/08/05

On 8/5/05, gabriele renzi <surrender_it@remove-yahoo.it> wrote:

[#150910] Re: Yet Another useless Ruby 2 Idea — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/08/05

Jacob Fugal ha scritto:

[#151275] Re: Yet Another useless Ruby 2 Idea — mathew <meta@...> 2005/08/08

gabriele renzi wrote:

[#151354] Re: Yet Another useless Ruby 2 Idea — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/08/09

mathew ha scritto:

Re: [RCR] nil for unassigned keys

From: Daniel Brockman <daniel@...>
Date: 2005-07-19 14:46:26 UTC
List: ruby-talk #148782
Hi Simon,

> Sometimes I find myself writing  :key=>true,
> it would be nice if one didn't had to do assignment,
> so its value instead defaulted to nil.
> 
> def test(hash={})
>   p hash
> end
> 
> test('x', 'y'=>2, 'z') # {"x"=>nil, "y"=>2, "z"=>nil}

Matz> In that case, how can we distinguish a hash key
Matz> without value and ordinal mandatory argument?

Theoretically, you could allow flag arguments *after* the
first hash entry,

   def test(hash={}) ... end

   test :x => 2, :y, :z

but then of course you wouldn't be able to pass flag
arguments *only*.

> Maybe I don't understand the mandatory argument thing?
> But can't you just count them somehow?
>
> def test(arg1, arg2, hash={})
>   puts "#{arg1.inspect} #{arg2.inspect} #{hash.inspect}"
> end
>
> # mandatory argument?
> test(1, 2)           # 1 2 {}
>
> # hash key without value
> test(1, 2, 42)       # 1 2 {42=>nil}
> test(1, 2, 3, 4)     # 1 2 {3=>nil, 4=>nil}
> test(1, 2, 3, 4=>5)  # 1 2 {3=>nil, 4=>5}

You can always do this:

   class Array
     def butlast(n=1) slice 0 ... -n end
     def to_option_hash
       if last.kind_of? Hash
       then hash = last ; flags = butlast
       else hash = {} ; flags = self end
       for flag in flags do
         flag.to_sym or raise ArgumentError,
           "cannot convert flag option `#{flag}' to symbol"
         hash[flag.to_sym] = true
       end
       hash
     end
   end

   def test(arg1, arg2, *args)
     options = args.to_option_hash
     puts "#{arg1.inspect} #{arg2.inspect} #{options.inspect}"
   end

That reminds me, I promised I would write an RCR for
allowing trailing argument after the splatting one, like so:

   def moomin(foo, *bar, baz)

It was said that optional arguments should be allowed before
the splat, but not after it.

   def moomin(foo, optional=nil, *bar, baz)

In the above case of option hashes with flags, however, it
is obvious that it would be useful to be able to have
optional arguments after the splat.

   def test2(arg1, arg2, *flags, options={})

The above is unambiguous: we must always try to assign one
argument to ‘options’ — anything else wouldn't make sense.
It only becomes a problem when you have optional arguments
both before *and* after the splat:

   def test3(arg1, arg2, arg3=nil, *flags, o={})

Obviously, when ‘test3’ is called with four arguments, we
must assign the third to ‘arg3’ and the fourth to ‘options’,
but what if only three arguments are given — does the last
one go to ‘arg3’ or to ‘options’?

I think the only reasonable thing to do is to fill optional
argument slots from left to right, as is done now:

   def foo(a, b=nil, *c, d=nil, e) ... end

   foo 1                # ArgumentError
   foo 1, 2             # a=1, b=nil, c=[],  d=nil, e=2
   foo 1, 2, 3          # a=1, b=2,   c=[],  d=nil, e=3
   foo 1, 2, 3, 4       # a=1, b=2,   c=[],  d=3,   e=4
   foo 1, 2, 3, 4, 5    # a=1, b=2,   c=[3], d=4,   e=5

This would also reasonably mean that mixing optional and
mandatory arguments would become allowed:

   def bar(a, b=nil, c, d=nil, e) ... end

   foo 1                # ArgumentError
   foo 1, 2             # ArgumentError
   foo 1, 2, 3          # a=1, b=nil, c=2, d=nil, e=3
   foo 1, 2, 3, 4       # a=1, b=2,   c=3, d=nil, e=4
   foo 1, 2, 3, 4, 5    # a=1, b=2,   c=3, d=4,   e=5

What do people think?  Does this all seem reasonable?
Eric Mahurin had another good example of a use case:

   def []= *coordinates, value

-- 
Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se>

    So really, we all have to ask ourselves:
    Am I waiting for RMS to do this?   --TTN.

PS: Note how I've started putting parens in the argument
lists of method definitions and leaving out the spaces
around the equals signs for optional arguments.  Somewhere,
Guido is chuckling with satisfaction.  I hope you are too.


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