From: tsuraan <tsuraan@...>
Date: 2005-07-19T00:19:46+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby momentum?

> This is something of a mixed bag.  Rails has been marketed very heavily, true.
> The name is all over the place, and has been for quite a while, and many of
> the claims, taken individually, are quite open to attack and criticism.
> However, at the same time, hasn't that marketing also worked quite
> successfully?

Getting the word out is definitely good, and perhaps having some
controversy over the thing does help, but it seems to be raising the
barrier to acceptance.  I'd love to see straightforward comparisons
and even some reasonable testimonials, but the gushing is just getting
silly.  I don't blame the Rails people for this; I think it's just
some people who really do believe that they've found the holy grail
and are very excited about that.  It just makes it a bit difficult to
take rails seriously.

> If RoR had not been hyped like this, would your Java shop know about it at
> all?  Would there be an enthusiastic crowd developing for it, and a much
> larger enthusiastic crowd buying books about it and using it?

Not a Java shop (thank god :)

> Probably not.

I've been on the Ruby list since before Rails was released (as far as
I know), so I probably would know about it, but I do get the point. 
The news articles certainly are bringing people in, it seems.