From: mathew Date: 2005-07-19T23:10:55+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? Stefan Lang wrote: > No, not Java. I'm not a teacher, but i do Java/C coaching from time > to time and the hardest things to explain are static vs instance methods > and primitives vs objects in Java. Not to mention variables which are passed by value vs those which are passed by reference, hence assignments and comparison working differently depending on the type, arrays being unlike every other type, constructors having special unique syntax, and a huge and inconsistent class library. (Which are we using this release? array, Array, ArrayList, or Vector?) I was writing Java long before I came to Ruby, and I wouldn't push Java on someone new to programming. mathew