From: vanek@... Date: 2005-07-19T11:05:55+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby/Rails as a starter language? If you don't need to get involved in web programming right away, gawk is probably the easiest and gives you a big bang for the buck, to mix metaphors. Ruby is a breath of fresh air but you will have a hard time appreciating many of the more powerful aspects of the language as a newbie. Heck, many programmers even have a hard time wrapping their brains around object-oriented programming. First crawl, then walk, then run. (If you see the word 'pointer' in the language you are studying you will want to avoid that language for at least a year. Pointers are dangerous for newbies, and thankfully all popular scripting languages shield you from 'em.) The easiest languages to learn are the garbage-collected scripting languages such as PHP, Python, Perl, Ruby, and Gawk. PHP is an excellant learning language---better than Java, IMNSHO. Just don't stay in that rut for long. BTW, if you decide to go with Awk/Gawk, one of the best books is called "The Awk Programming Language," by Aho. Oh, to be young again...