[#277137] executing VIM on a remote machine? — "Gian Holland" <gianmh@...>

Is is possible with ruby to execute vim on a remote machine to edit a file?

11 messages 2007/11/01

[#277159] Who required that!? — Trans <transfire@...>

Is there any way to ask a file what other file require/load 'd it? I

15 messages 2007/11/02
[#277180] Re: Who required that!? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2007/11/02

[#277359] Unicode illegal characters problem — "Axel Etzold" <AEtzold@...>

Dear all,

16 messages 2007/11/03

[#277377] dragons and factorials (keyboard input) — Thufir <hawat.thufir@...>

I'm getting keyboard input successfully, but I'm getting a string. I

13 messages 2007/11/03

[#277385] x=[]; x[:bla][:some_key] does not work? — Joshua Muheim <forum@...>

Hi all

24 messages 2007/11/03

[#277517] Reading a class-file and calling it at runtime. — Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@...>

I'm trying to read-in a folder full of "plug-ins" and call each of them,

19 messages 2007/11/05
[#277534] Re: [n00b] Reading a class-file and calling it at runtime. — "Sean O'Halpin" <sean.ohalpin@...> 2007/11/05

On 11/5/07, Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@your-pants.playnaked.com> wrote:

[#277579] Re: Reading a class-file and calling it at runtime. — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2007/11/05

Sean O'halpin wrote:

[#277615] Faking the refering page with Mechanize — Ehud Rosenberg <ehudros@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2007/11/06
[#277617] Re: Faking the refering page with Mechanize — Konrad Meyer <konrad@...> 2007/11/06

Quoth Ehud Rosenberg:

[#277719] Language Popularity - PHP vs Ruby? — Marc Heiler <shevegen@...>

Hi,

26 messages 2007/11/06
[#277773] Re: Language Popularity - PHP vs Ruby? — Ilan Berci <coder68@...> 2007/11/06

Marc Heiler wrote:

[#277881] Re: Language Popularity - PHP vs Ruby? — Alex Young <alex@...> 2007/11/07

Ilan Berci wrote:

[#277785] Re: JRuby performance questions answered — Isaac Gouy <igouy2@...>

Quoting Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter / sun.com>:

23 messages 2007/11/06
[#277789] Re: JRuby performance questions answered — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2007/11/06

[#278300] Re: JRuby performance questions answered — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2007/11/09

[#278343] Re: JRuby performance questions answered — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/11/10

On 11/9/07, Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@gmail.com> wrote:

[#278385] Re: JRuby performance questions answered — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2007/11/10

Rick DeNatale wrote:

[#278397] Re: JRuby performance questions answered — Sean Surname <x3qh85202@...> 2007/11/10

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#277797] Is there a "||" that treats "" also as false? — Joshua Muheim <forum@...>

Hi all

15 messages 2007/11/07

[#277900] a problem related string(250 score) — Johnson Wang <99100@163.com>

How to solve this problem in Ruby????

13 messages 2007/11/07

[#277931] Windows: Scheduled Ruby script won't run — bdezonia@...

Hello all,

12 messages 2007/11/07

[#277944] how to delete array — Surjit Nameirakpam <surjit.meitei@...>

Problem

21 messages 2007/11/07
[#277952] Re: how to delete array — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...> 2007/11/07

On Nov 7, 2007 10:02 PM, Surjit Nameirakpam <surjit.meitei@gmail.com> wrote:

[#277954] Re: how to delete array — Surjit Nameirakpam <surjit.meitei@...> 2007/11/07

My business logic doesn't help me find which values i have to delete but

[#277955] Re: how to delete array — Surjit Nameirakpam <surjit.meitei@...> 2007/11/07

Surjit Nameirakpam wrote:

[#277980] alternate to case; generating a list of sub-classes — Thufir <hawat.thufir@...>

The below uses pseudo-random number generation to populate an array

11 messages 2007/11/07

[#278070] local variables, eval, and parsing — furtive.clown@...

17 messages 2007/11/08
[#278076] Re: local variables, eval, and parsing — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/08

val = 44

[#278089] Re: local variables, eval, and parsing — Randy Kramer <rhkramer@...> 2007/11/08

On Thursday 08 November 2007 11:25 am, furtive.clown@gmail.com wrote:

[#278099] Re: local variables, eval, and parsing — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/08

On Nov 8, 1:10 pm, Randy Kramer <rhkra...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#278130] Re: local variables, eval, and parsing — Randy Kramer <rhkramer@...> 2007/11/08

On Thursday 08 November 2007 01:45 pm, furtive.clown@gmail.com wrote:

[#278120] 'Class.inherited' v. 'inherited' syntax inside Class — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...>

How come when you redefine the inherited method in Class, you don't use

12 messages 2007/11/08

[#278171] Ruby/Fastcgi going into uninterruptible after random periods of time — "nate" <ruby@...>

Hello there -

11 messages 2007/11/09

[#278226] Current Quizmaster Retiring — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

When I started the Ruby Quiz project, I made some off-hand comment =20

28 messages 2007/11/09

[#278271] enterprise ruby — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

I am thinking of doing a 'side by side' distro of Ruby that includes the

50 messages 2007/11/09
[#278276] Re: enterprise ruby — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/11/09

On 09.11.2007 21:28, Roger Pack wrote:

[#278305] Re: enterprise ruby — Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscription@...> 2007/11/10

Robert Klemme wrote the following on 09.11.2007 22:05 :

[#278415] Re: enterprise ruby — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/11/11

Lionel Bouton wrote:

[#278592] Re: enterprise ruby — Jay Levitt <jay+news@...> 2007/11/12

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:32:14 -0500, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#278616] Re: enterprise ruby — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2007/11/12

Jay Levitt wrote:

[#278310] equivalent injecting implementations? — Trans <transfire@...>

Are these strictly equivalent? I get the feeling no, but I haven't

14 messages 2007/11/10
[#278344] Re: equivalent injecting implementations? — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/11/10

On 11/9/07, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#278354] The Man or Boy Recursion Test — Werner <wdahn@...>

Hello,

17 messages 2007/11/10
[#278392] Re: The Man or Boy Recursion Test — Tim Hunter <TimHunter@...> 2007/11/10

Werner wrote:

[#278410] Re: The Man or Boy Recursion Test — Lloyd Linklater <lloyd@2live4.com> 2007/11/10

Tim Hunter wrote:

[#278453] Re: The Man or Boy Recursion Test — Tim Hunter <TimHunter@...> 2007/11/11

Lloyd Linklater wrote:

[#278458] Re: The Man or Boy Recursion Test — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/11/11

On Nov 11, 2007 9:21 AM, Tim Hunter <TimHunter@nc.rr.com> wrote:

[#278413] ruby-1.8.6-p111 build on osx 10.5.0 fails; ok on 10.4.10. bug or config? — snowcrash+rubytalk <schneecrash+rubytalk@...>

hi,

11 messages 2007/11/11
[#278447] Re: ruby-1.8.6-p111 build on osx 10.5.0 fails; ok on 10.4.10. bug or config? — "Laurent Sansonetti" <laurent.sansonetti@...> 2007/11/11

On Nov 11, 2007 1:27 AM, snowcrash+rubytalk

[#278539] comp.lang.fortran challenge — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>

Having Ruby fun with the comp.lang.fortran folks:

14 messages 2007/11/12

[#278575] does Ruby has method properties — Thilina Buddhika <thilinamb@...>

In java script it is possible to something like this,

16 messages 2007/11/12

[#278643] alias_method :tap, :affect — Josh Susser <josh@...>

46 messages 2007/11/12
[#278652] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 2007 12:58 PM, Josh Susser <josh@hasmanythrough.com> wrote:

[#278657] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/12

[#278663] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 2007 11:10 AM, <furtive.clown@gmail.com> wrote:

[#278675] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 2:31 pm, Martin DeMello <martindeme...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#278678] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 2007, at 2:40 PM, furtive.clown@gmail.com wrote:

[#278685] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 3:55 pm, James Edward Gray II <ja...@grayproductions.net>

[#278688] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 2007, at 3:25 PM, furtive.clown@gmail.com wrote:

[#278691] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 4:37 pm, James Edward Gray II <ja...@grayproductions.net>

[#278692] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 2007, at 4:20 PM, furtive.clown@gmail.com wrote:

[#278693] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 5:25 pm, James Edward Gray II <ja...@grayproductions.net>

[#278695] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 2007, at 4:35 PM, furtive.clown@gmail.com wrote:

[#278705] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/12

>

[#278706] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 2007, at 5:30 PM, furtive.clown@gmail.com wrote:

[#278708] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/12

On Nov 12, 6:39 pm, James Edward Gray II <ja...@grayproductions.net>

[#278710] Re: alias_method :tap, :affect — Raul Parolari <raulparolari@...> 2007/11/13

unknown wrote:

[#278742] Yielding an object and caring about the result: the cousin of Object#tap — furtive.clown@...

The idea of Object#tap is to insert a "listener" (like tapping a phone

36 messages 2007/11/13
[#278744] Re: Yielding an object and caring about the result: the cousin of Object#tap — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/13

[#278853] Re: Yielding an object and caring about the result: the cousin of Object#tap — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2007/11/13

[#278864] Re: Yielding an object and caring about the result: the cousin of Object#tap — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/13

Ara,

[#278884] Re: Yielding an object and caring about the result: the cousin of Object#tap — -a <ara.t.howard@...> 2007/11/13

[#278981] Re: Yielding an object and caring about the result: the cousin of Object#tap — furtive.clown@... 2007/11/14

Let's compare them again. I changed some variable names which will

[#278840] Why are so many people confused about "Enterprise" software? — "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@...>

Really, why are so many people confused about "Enterprise" software,

10 messages 2007/11/13

[#278871] Ordered Hash Usefulness — "Devi Web Development" <devi.webmaster@...>

On Nov 12, 2007 7:56 AM, James Edward Gray II <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

19 messages 2007/11/13

[#278878] recursion with blocks — Mike Perham <mperham@...>

I have a tree structure where I want to walk the structure and find a

13 messages 2007/11/13

[#278928] rails incredibly slow (update) — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

After 24 minutes of waiting, the Welcome Aboard window came up in my

75 messages 2007/11/14
[#278936] Re: rails incredibly slow (update) — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...> 2007/11/14

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:22:29 -0500, Mohit Sindhwani

[#279008] ruby incredibly slow (update 2) — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...> 2007/11/14

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:42:17 -0500, Tanner Burson

[#279418] Re: ruby incredibly slow (update 2) — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...> 2007/11/17

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:51:51 -0500, Bob Hutchison <hutch@recursive.ca>

[#279710] Re: ruby incredibly slow (update 2) — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...> 2007/11/19

[#279121] webrick alternative — Michael Conrad <list-ruby@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2007/11/15

[#279241] Alternative Ruby grammar — Markus Liedl <m.liedl@...>

I have spent the last months to write an alternative Ruby grammar now

23 messages 2007/11/16

[#279263] meta-class subclass relationships — Greg Weeks <greg.weeks@...>

Ruby exposes its singleton meta-classes, eg:

16 messages 2007/11/16
[#279288] Re: meta-class subclass relationships — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/11/16

Hi --

[#279347] Goedel (#147) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

21 messages 2007/11/16

[#279360] "instance_eval" (eg, sent to a class object) — Greg Weeks <greg.weeks@...>

I've poked around, but I don't get instance_eval at all.

11 messages 2007/11/16

[#279419] Composition: Build objects from other objects — Thufir <hawat.thufir@...>

<http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-06-2001/jw-0608-java101.html> has

22 messages 2007/11/17

[#279539] Five Top programming Languages — bicomplex@...

Five Top programming Languages

15 messages 2007/11/18

[#279564] GUI and ruby — ulazar <ulazar@...>

I would like to create an interface GUI with ruby. What I have to use? I

17 messages 2007/11/18

[#279642] Open-ended ranges? — Clifford Heath <no@...>

Folk,

21 messages 2007/11/19

[#279670] False positives in editing data — RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...>

Hi All,

39 messages 2007/11/19

[#279671] Is there an equivalent in irb to command: history in bash? — Stephen Bannasch <stephen.bannasch@...>

Is there an equivalent in irb to the command history in bash?

11 messages 2007/11/19
[#279675] Re: Is there an equivalent in irb to command: history in bash? — Chris Shea <cmshea@...> 2007/11/19

On Nov 18, 10:44 pm, Stephen Bannasch <stephen.banna...@deanbrook.org>

[#279738] Read last line of a file — Shuaib Zahda <shuaib.zahda@...>

Hi all

17 messages 2007/11/19
[#279748] Re: Read last line of a file — Xavier Noria <fxn@...> 2007/11/19

On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Shuaib Zahda wrote:

[#279822] RubyGems 0.9.5 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

RubyGems 0.9.5 adds several new features and fixes several bugs.

56 messages 2007/11/20
[#279841] Re: RubyGems 0.9.5 — Michael Greenly <mgreenly@...> 2007/11/20

I got caught by some "tired at the end of the day" stupidity...

[#279903] Re: RubyGems 0.9.5 — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/11/20

On Nov 20, 2007 12:53 AM, Michael Greenly <mgreenly@gmail.com> wrote:

[#279907] Re: RubyGems 0.9.5 — Michael Greenly <mgreenly@...> 2007/11/20

Rick Denatale wrote:

[#279921] Re: RubyGems 0.9.5 — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2007/11/20

Michael Greenly wrote:

[#279928] Re: RubyGems 0.9.5 — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2007/11/20

On 11/20/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#279935] Re: RubyGems 0.9.5 — Michael Greenly <mgreenly@...> 2007/11/20

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#280023] Re: RubyGems 0.9.5 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/11/20

On Nov 20, 2007, at 08:18 , Michael Greenly wrote:

[#280086] Re: RubyGems 0.9.5 — Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain.joyeux@...> 2007/11/21

On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 08:09:18AM +0900, Eric Hodel wrote:

[#280119] Re: RubyGems 0.9.5 — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2007/11/21

On 11/21/07, Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain.joyeux@polytechnique.org> wrote:

[#279870] eigenvalues, eigenvectors in Ruby ??? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

40 messages 2007/11/20

[#279877] read, write, seek method in a ring buffer class — Martin Durai <martin@...>

Could any body help me with creating a ring buffer class using a string.

12 messages 2007/11/20

[#279887] is there an nicer way for this expression? — Remco Hh <remco@...>

hi,

18 messages 2007/11/20

[#279896] Choosing a scripting language for scientific programming — deltaquattro <deltaquattro@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2007/11/20

[#279940] AJAX without Rails — Miki Vz <mikisvaz@...>

Hi, I'm pretty new to Ajax.

24 messages 2007/11/20
[#279953] Re: AJAX without Rails — Miki Vz <mikisvaz@...> 2007/11/20

Actually, I'm not sure I'm using eruby, I'm using mod_ruby and

[#279961] Re: AJAX without Rails — Deepak Vohra <dvohra09@...> 2007/11/20

http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/01/15/ajax_rails_tutorial/

[#279963] Re: AJAX without Rails — Miki Vz <mikisvaz@...> 2007/11/20

Isn't this precisely a rails tutorial? I'm trying not to use rails,

[#279967] Re: AJAX without Rails — Deepak Vohra <dvohra09@...> 2007/11/20

Ruby on Rails is the only Ajax framework for Ruby.

[#279984] Packet : A Pure Ruby Library for Event Driven Network Programming — hemant <gethemant@...>

Hi Folks,

11 messages 2007/11/20

[#280005] Ruby Tool Survey — Tim Bray <Tim.Bray@...>

I'm running a survey to find out what tools Ruby and Rails people

24 messages 2007/11/20

[#280091] porting java methods to ruby — Martin Durai <martin@...>

could any one help me out to solve this.

19 messages 2007/11/21

[#280232] How to give depth to arrays? — Chris Morales <primo.tertio@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2007/11/22

[#280316] Checking whether a string is a number in disguise? — Peter Bunyan <peter.bunyan@...>

I'm working on an RPN calculator (don't ask why...) and I'm having

10 messages 2007/11/22

[#280521] Iterating through class names using a block — Ge Bro <boomstik@...>

Hey all,

14 messages 2007/11/24

[#280542] Convert words to numbers and back? — Jordon Bedwell <jordon@...>

I was wondering if somebody could give me some insight and help on how

10 messages 2007/11/24

[#280645] Moving files matching Regex — Mark Woodward <markonlinux@...>

Hi all,

16 messages 2007/11/25

[#280664] specify start postion of Regexp matching — makoto kuwata <kwa@...>

Hi, all.

16 messages 2007/11/25

[#280670] Creating a rubygem - a story and help request — Phrogz <phrogz@...>

The Story

11 messages 2007/11/25

[#280708] European Ruby Conference 2008 in Prague, Czech Republic? — Karel Minařík <karel.minarik@...>

Hi all,

13 messages 2007/11/25

[#280818] Removing duplicates and substrings from an array — "Sam Larbi" <slarbi@...>

I've got an array of strings, say like:

12 messages 2007/11/26

[#280901] Most elegant way to do this? — rbysamppi@...

Are there any more elegant, concise, pithy, and more Rubyish ways of

31 messages 2007/11/27

[#280905] Bizarre Floating point errors in Ruby? Serious bug? — space.ship.traveller@...

Hi,

16 messages 2007/11/27

[#280921] FEATURE SUGGESTION: Accept default value for to_f and to_i — Mr Magpie <gazmcgheesubs@...>

I suggest that to_i() and to_f() have an optional parameter added with

13 messages 2007/11/27

[#280923] Ruby on OLPC?? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...>

I've been seriously considering the One Laptop Per Child Give One Get

25 messages 2007/11/27

[#280947] Re: "Why I Program In Ruby (And Maybe Why You Shouldn't)" — Raul Parolari <raulparolari@...>

Trollen Lord wrote:

36 messages 2007/11/27
[#281035] Re: "Why I Program In Ruby (And Maybe Why You Shouldn't)" — MonkeeSage <MonkeeSage@...> 2007/11/27

On Nov 27, 11:42 am, Trollen Lord <trollenl...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#281081] Re: "Why I Program In Ruby (And Maybe Why You Shouldn't)" — MonkeeSage <MonkeeSage@...> 2007/11/27

On Nov 27, 3:24 pm, Trollen Lord <trollenl...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#281012] Accessing a file server with ruby — Anthony <improvcornartist@...>

This seems like it should be a simple solution, but I don't know

15 messages 2007/11/27

[#281157] Equivalent for unix "read" command in rake tasks? — Rob Lucas <roblucas@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2007/11/28

[#281174] Ruby needs continuations... — "Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality" <ihatespam@...>

Warning: I don't really know what I'm talking about so if I make any

26 messages 2007/11/28

[#281224] Im trying to make Thumbnail pics -- any suggestions? — wiz_pendases@...

Im trying to make Thumbnail pics -- any suggestions? (dont know wher

10 messages 2007/11/28

[#281273] Custom Protocol — thefed <fedzor@...>

I understand that I've asked a similar question that of custom packets.

16 messages 2007/11/28

[#281295] Creating Databases in Ruby — "Will Mueller" <will.liljon@...>

Hello All,

12 messages 2007/11/29

[#281331] Hash Sorting — Nathan Viswa <nathanv@...>

Can not understand how the block after sort works! Need help. thanks.

25 messages 2007/11/29

[#281385] Negate a character sequence in a regular expression? — crm_114@...

For the following string:

12 messages 2007/11/29

[#281432] when 1.9.0 will be released? — sayoyo Sayoyo <sayoyo@...>

Hi, does someone know when the 1.9.0 will be released?

17 messages 2007/11/30

[#281478] Postfix to Infix (#148) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

45 messages 2007/11/30

[#281519] Unicode in Regex — Greg Willits <lists@...>

This is mostly a Ruby thing, and partly a Rails thing.

33 messages 2007/11/30

Re: Yielding an object and caring about the result: the cousin of Object#tap

From: furtive.clown@...
Date: 2007-11-14 13:45:02 UTC
List: ruby-talk #278981
Let's compare them again.  I changed some variable names which will
hopefully remove that red herring from the conversation.  I also made
the styles more consistent for better comparison.  (I was going to
show both my style and your one-liner style, but it was too
distracting.)

Temporaries in the scope of the target all_files:

  data_files = stems.map { |stem|
     "#{ stem }.#{ guess_extension stem }"
  }
  basenames =
     add_suffixes(source_files + add_prefixes(data_files))
  all_files = basenames.map { |basename|
     File.join dir, basename
  }

Temporaries inside block chains:

   all_files = stems.map { |stem|
      "#{ stem }.#{ guess_extension stem }"
   }.as { |data_files|
      add_suffixes(source_files + add_prefixes(data_files))
   }.map { |basename|
      File.join dir, basename
   }

(BTW 'suffix' here means the chars right before the dot; after the dot
I call the extension.)

I almost editorialized the headings as "Temporaries floating around
randomly, obscuring the target all_files," and "Temporaries tucked
away safely inside block chains, leaving the lone target all_files for
all of us to see."

> > I have not had such problems with exception traces.  Emacs parses the
> > trace, so I've never had a problem tracking exceptions down.
>
> well although that may sound heretical to me (vim user ;-)) i was
> thinking more along the lines of debugging production code where you
> typically just have some logs or, as i'm currently doing, debugging
> stacktraces hand written and walked out of a classified facility!
> (seriously)

I use emacs with vi bindings; you might say I'm the product of a mixed
marriage.  I get Hanukkah presents *and* Christmas presents,
metaphorically speaking.

The stacktrace argument holds no water with me.  Is there a ruby bug
in the line-number reporting?  I don't see the issue here.

> for the record, i would use #as just as i use #eval and co.  as far as
> clarity goes, maybe you come from a functional background, but i've
> never found stringing lambdas together as very clear.

This is part of my motivation here.  The block-chains above are
beautiful to me.  Concise, clear, and everything else.

Several years ago I experimented with writing ruby in a functional
style where it seemed appropriate.  I loved the results.  There is a
lot to say here.  In short, I became a better ruby programmer (which I
didn't think was possible!).  By functional style I mean functional
style in the small, such as inside the definition of a method.
Thinking in terms of transformations, removing or reducing side-
effects --- well, I won't get into it now.

> i also typically prefer
>
>   response = http.response
>   response.foo
>   response.bar
>
> to
>
>   http.response.foo
>   http.response.bar
>

That's not an example of functional style.  That's using a local
variable verses not doing so.  It has nothing to do with functional
style.

Part of your response attempts to conflate #as with #eval,
#instance_eval, #returning, singleton objects, and perhaps also the
kitchen sink.  However we are talking about #as.  I do not accept this
argument-by-association.  If you wish to make an argument against #as,
you are obligated to address #as directly.

> i guess in the end i'm being more critical of the particular example
> you gave rather than #as on the whole - but #as just seems to have a
> little code smell too it since it loses much of it's power inside a
> small method where local vars get popped anyhow

On the contrary, every local variable removed from the target
variable's scope is a win.  Even if it's one variable, that's a win.
That's one less distraction to the purpose of the code.  Or two, such
as in the example above.

If a programmer is making huge, complex method definitions and refuses
to split them up, then there's nothing we can do about it.  Your
argument seems to be, "Well, with #as, those huge definitions will
become more manageable, and therefore #as will encourage the
programmer not to split them up."  It is difficult to explain the
ridiculousness in that line of thinking.  In the meantime, good
programmers will correctly use smaller definitions while benefiting
from #as (or, at least I benefit from it).

>
>   def foobar
>     tmp = self
>     someting_with tmp
>   end
>
> vs
>
>   def foobar
>     self.as{|tmp| something_with tmp}
>   end

Straw man.  Nobody in their right mind would do that.  That's not an
argument against #as.

I have yet to see a legitimate argument against #as here, save for the
clutter argument which also applies to #tap etc as well.  I can
appreciate that to some degree, yet in many years I have not seen one
case of an actual problem arising from it.

My point is inherently difficult to make because it requires an
appreciation of method chaining and block-chaining.  In the larger
context, an appreciation of functional style is also involved.  So,
try it out for six months: if you still don't like it after that, then
you can return it for a full refund.



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