From: Eloy Duran <eloy.de.enige@...>
Date: 2007-11-05T21:08:21+09:00
Subject: Re: [ANN] Rucola 0.0.1 released.

I use TextMate exclusively with my RubyCocoa projects.
There's no added benefit for me of working with Xcode.
Of course I sometimes need to use it to tweak app settings, but that's  
about it.

Eloy

On 5 nov 2007, at 12:45, John Joyce wrote:

> I remember it being introduced or at least getting a little hype  
> back in the Panther days. That's the first time I heard of Ruby.
> I'm kind of waiting though, I'm very curious to see what Xcode 3  
> will do for me. It's really tough to imagine doing Ruby in anything  
> other than TextMate now. TM spoiled me...
> On Nov 5, 2007, at 2:49 AM, Eloy Duran wrote:
>
>> Just to be clear, you don't need Leopard to play with RubyCocoa.
>> It will just as happily work on Tiger. Although with less framework  
>> support than
>> Leopard, it's still very usable foor the majority of the  
>> applications.
>> You could even run it on Panther with some extra work.
>>
>> Eloy
>>
>> On 5 nov 2007, at 02:47, John Joyce wrote:
>>
>>> I've been working through some books on Cocoa lately to be a  
>>> little prepared.
>>> It's just that Cocoa is such a HUGE framework, and so much of the  
>>> framework was written long ago and it shows with some of the  
>>> naming schemes and concept names. Learning Ruby and Rails actually  
>>> makes Cocoa much easier to swallow I think.
>>> So whenever I get the spare cash to get a new Mac, I'll be  
>>> monkeying with RubyCocoa (and maybe Rucola).
>>> This iBook G4 can probably run Leopard, but I already have so much  
>>> set up on here that I need to keep it as is until something new is  
>>> set up to take its place.
>>> On Nov 4, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Eloy Duran wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> There is also already some code in RubyCocoa that allows you to use
>>>> ActiveRecord (with for instance SQLite) in combination with Cocoa  
>>>> bindings.
>>>>
>>>> http://rubycocoa.sourceforge.net/ActiveRecordSupport
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't support everything (yet) of course, but it's a good  
>>>> basis for such glue code.
>>>> And bindings will make you happy.... generally :)
>>>>
>>>> Actually I think that the "no need to learn" cocoa is not gonna  
>>>> happen.
>>>> But it will also not be such a problem with projects like Rucola  
>>>> I think,
>>>> because you get up and running in way which is generally known to  
>>>> ruby devs.
>>>> Instead of (the pain of) learning xcode etc.
>>>>
>>>> Once you get past that you will see that cocoa is a very nice  
>>>> environment to work in.
>>>> And Interface Builder rocks!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Eloy
>>>>
>>>> PS: I thought everybody did their coding exclusively on the  
>>>> toilet? ;)
>>>>
>>>> On 4 nov 2007, at 19:18, John Joyce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Excellent beginning!
>>>>> I was just thinking about such things on the toilet this morning  
>>>>> (of course, where else?).
>>>>> With RubyCocoa now officially bundled in OS X, it is only a  
>>>>> matter of months before this kind of thing explodes.
>>>>> I was thinking about:
>>>>>
>>>>> Using ActiveRecord, and potentially some sort of Rails-like  
>>>>> framework. But for OS X development, there is no reason to  
>>>>> install MySQL, rather, just use SQLite, since it too is bundled  
>>>>> and is commonly used by Mac applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using WebKit as a super-lazy, "no need to learn Cocoa" approach  
>>>>> to building an app.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even for developing Dashboard Widgets... a Ruby solution would  
>>>>> be nice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 4, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Eloy Duran wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday we released the first alpha version of rucola:
>>>>>> http://rucola.rubyforge.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a screencast (showed at RubyConf by Dr Nic) using the  
>>>>>> rucola command see this post:
>>>>>> http://www.superalloy.nl/blog/2007/11/04/rucola-a-rubycocoa-application-builder/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Eloy Duran & Justin Palmer
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> =================================================================
>>>>>> A Framework for building Cocoa applications in Ruby
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rucola is a light weight framework that helps you write  
>>>>>> RubyCocoa apps.
>>>>>> It allows you to build, test, and deploy applications using  
>>>>>> rake commands,
>>>>>> eliminating the need to use XCode, however you can use XCode if  
>>>>>> you wish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rucola provides a set of generators to help you generate  
>>>>>> controllers,
>>
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