From: John Joyce Date: 2007-11-05T20:45:35+09:00 Subject: Re: [ANN] Rucola 0.0.1 released. I remember it being introduced or at least getting a little hype back in the Panther days. That's the first time I heard of Ruby. I'm kind of waiting though, I'm very curious to see what Xcode 3 will do for me. It's really tough to imagine doing Ruby in anything other than TextMate now. TM spoiled me... On Nov 5, 2007, at 2:49 AM, Eloy Duran wrote: > Just to be clear, you don't need Leopard to play with RubyCocoa. > It will just as happily work on Tiger. Although with less framework > support than > Leopard, it's still very usable foor the majority of the applications. > You could even run it on Panther with some extra work. > > Eloy > > On 5 nov 2007, at 02:47, John Joyce wrote: > >> I've been working through some books on Cocoa lately to be a >> little prepared. >> It's just that Cocoa is such a HUGE framework, and so much of the >> framework was written long ago and it shows with some of the >> naming schemes and concept names. Learning Ruby and Rails actually >> makes Cocoa much easier to swallow I think. >> So whenever I get the spare cash to get a new Mac, I'll be >> monkeying with RubyCocoa (and maybe Rucola). >> This iBook G4 can probably run Leopard, but I already have so much >> set up on here that I need to keep it as is until something new is >> set up to take its place. >> On Nov 4, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Eloy Duran wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> There is also already some code in RubyCocoa that allows you to use >>> ActiveRecord (with for instance SQLite) in combination with Cocoa >>> bindings. >>> >>> http://rubycocoa.sourceforge.net/ActiveRecordSupport >>> >>> It doesn't support everything (yet) of course, but it's a good >>> basis for such glue code. >>> And bindings will make you happy.... generally :) >>> >>> Actually I think that the "no need to learn" cocoa is not gonna >>> happen. >>> But it will also not be such a problem with projects like Rucola >>> I think, >>> because you get up and running in way which is generally known to >>> ruby devs. >>> Instead of (the pain of) learning xcode etc. >>> >>> Once you get past that you will see that cocoa is a very nice >>> environment to work in. >>> And Interface Builder rocks! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Eloy >>> >>> PS: I thought everybody did their coding exclusively on the >>> toilet? ;) >>> >>> On 4 nov 2007, at 19:18, John Joyce wrote: >>> >>>> Excellent beginning! >>>> I was just thinking about such things on the toilet this morning >>>> (of course, where else?). >>>> With RubyCocoa now officially bundled in OS X, it is only a >>>> matter of months before this kind of thing explodes. >>>> I was thinking about: >>>> >>>> Using ActiveRecord, and potentially some sort of Rails-like >>>> framework. But for OS X development, there is no reason to >>>> install MySQL, rather, just use SQLite, since it too is bundled >>>> and is commonly used by Mac applications. >>>> >>>> Using WebKit as a super-lazy, "no need to learn Cocoa" approach >>>> to building an app. >>>> >>>> Even for developing Dashboard Widgets... a Ruby solution would >>>> be nice. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Eloy Duran wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Yesterday we released the first alpha version of rucola: >>>>> http://rucola.rubyforge.org/ >>>>> >>>>> For a screencast (showed at RubyConf by Dr Nic) using the >>>>> rucola command see this post: >>>>> http://www.superalloy.nl/blog/2007/11/04/rucola-a-rubycocoa- >>>>> application-builder/ >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Eloy Duran & Justin Palmer >>>>> >>>>> ================================================================== >>>>> ====== >>>>> A Framework for building Cocoa applications in Ruby >>>>> >>>>> Rucola is a light weight framework that helps you write >>>>> RubyCocoa apps. >>>>> It allows you to build, test, and deploy applications using >>>>> rake commands, >>>>> eliminating the need to use XCode, however you can use XCode if >>>>> you wish. >>>>> >>>>> Rucola provides a set of generators to help you generate >>>>> controllers, > >