[#13842] Better introspection for Frames, Thread, and enhancing binding. — "Rocky Bernstein" <rocky.bernstein@...>

The below is a little long. So here's a summary.

11 messages 2007/12/01

[#13851] Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — "Voroztsov Artem" <artem.voroztsov@...>

I encountered problem with Array#flatten slowness (it can be much

19 messages 2007/12/03
[#13863] Re: Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/03

Voroztsov Artem wrote:

[#13867] Re: Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — "Voroztsov Artem" <artem.voroztsov@...> 2007/12/03

2007/12/3, Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@sun.com>:

[#13868] Re: Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — "Voroztsov Artem" <artem.voroztsov@...> 2007/12/03

2007/12/3, Voroztsov Artem <artem.voroztsov@gmail.com>:

[#13870] Re: Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — "Yusuke ENDOH" <mame@...> 2007/12/03

Hi,

[#13903] Clarification of retry change — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>

Matz confirmed that retry-outside-rescue will no longer work, but I

14 messages 2007/12/07
[#13905] Re: Clarification of retry change — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2007/12/07

Hi,

[#13908] What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...>

20 messages 2007/12/07
[#13913] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/12/07

Hi,

[#13914] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...> 2007/12/07

Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:

[#13926] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2007/12/07

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[#14038] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — "Joe Swatosh" <joe.swatosh@...> 2007/12/12

Hi Luis

[#14039] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2007/12/12

On Dec 12, 2007 4:05 PM, Joe Swatosh <joe.swatosh@gmail.com> wrote:

[#14040] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2007/12/12

> This was discussed in other thread in ruby-talk, but just to summarize:

[#13969] redefineable not operator — David Flanagan <david@...>

Matz,

37 messages 2007/12/10
[#13971] Re: redefineable not operator — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/10

David Flanagan wrote:

[#13972] Re: redefineable not operator — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/12/10

Hi,

[#14007] Re: redefineable not operator — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/11

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#14011] Re: redefineable not operator — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/12/11

Hi,

[#14013] Re: redefineable not operator — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/12

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#14016] Re: redefineable not operator — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/12/12

murphy wrote:

[#14019] Re: redefineable not operator — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/12/12

Hi,

[#14024] Re: redefineable not operator — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2007/12/12

[#14029] Re: redefineable not operator — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/12

[#14042] Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

E2MM.Raise complains about $! being read-only now, and E2MM is used by

22 messages 2007/12/13
[#14043] Re: Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9 — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/13

[#14049] RDoc + irb (Was: Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/12/13

On Dec 12, 2007, at 16:19 PM, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#14052] Re: RDoc + irb (Was: Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9) — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/13

[#14056] Re: RDoc + irb (Was: Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9) — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/13

Dave Thomas wrote:

[#14123] Some Ruby 1.9 loose ends to tie up — David Flanagan <david@...>

Matz,

20 messages 2007/12/17
[#14220] Re: Some Ruby 1.9 loose ends to tie up — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/12/21

Hi,

[#14238] Re: Some Ruby 1.9 loose ends to tie up — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#14147] named captures assigning to local variables — David Flanagan <david@...>

I've just been browsing ruby-dev. For an english speaker, it is kind of

26 messages 2007/12/19
[#14150] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/12/19

In article <47686B87.7050609@davidflanagan.com>,

[#14158] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — david@... 2007/12/19

Thank you for the clarification, akr. I'm embarassed to say that it didn't

[#14161] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/12/20

If I may, have a proposal. My apologies if this has already been

[#14170] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/12/20

In article <476A087E.3070000@davidflanagan.com>,

[#14172] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/12/20

How about making the return value an array of the captured strings, or nil

[#14149] Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Brent Roman <brent@...>

The attached patch against Ruby 1.8.6-p110 improves the performance of

38 messages 2007/12/19
[#14202] Re: Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/21

Brent Roman wrote:

[#14257] Re: Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Brent Roman <brent@...> 2007/12/22

[#14266] Re: Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/22

Brent Roman wrote:

[#14274] Re: Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain.joyeux@...4x.org> 2007/12/22

On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 11:07:25PM +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#14186] Rake 0.8.0 added to Ruby — Jim Weirich <jim.weirich@...>

Just a heads up here. I've added Rake (version 0.8.0 ... the latest)

34 messages 2007/12/21
[#14210] Re: [Spam] Rake 0.8.0 added to Ruby — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...> 2007/12/21

Jim Weirich wrote:

[#14213] Re: [Spam] Rake 0.8.0 added to Ruby — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/12/21

On Dec 21, 2007 10:24 AM, Gonzalo Garramu=F1o <ggarra@advancedsl.com.ar> wr=

[#14215] Re: [Spam] Rake 0.8.0 added to Ruby — Jim Weirich <jim.weirich@...> 2007/12/21

[#14303] IRHG - GC Memory Fragmentation? — Charles Thornton <ceo@...>

While working on Chapter 05 and referencing various works

23 messages 2007/12/23
[#14308] Re: IRHG - GC Memory Fragmentation? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2007/12/23

[#14335] Many external symbols _without_ prefix in libruby object file — Tadashi Saito <shiba@...2.accsnet.ne.jp>

Hi all,

12 messages 2007/12/23

[#14364] RDoc: [FATAL] failed to allocate memory — Martin Duerst <duerst@...>

With revision 14590, I suddenly get an error when I do "make install"

13 messages 2007/12/24

[#14367] replace csv.rb with fastercsv.rb — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...>

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15 messages 2007/12/24
[#14390] Re: replace csv.rb with fastercsv.rb — James Gray <james@...> 2007/12/24

On Dec 24, 2007, at 3:34 AM, NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#14418] Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0 — Richard Kilmer <rich@...>

Just re-built latest svn of 1.9.0 and base64.rb is removed. Its

51 messages 2007/12/25
[#14420] Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/12/25

On Dec 25, 2007, at 07:03 AM, Richard Kilmer wrote:

[#14427] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2007/12/25

Eric Hodel wrote:

[#14431] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/25

[#14446] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/12/26

On Dec 25, 2007, at 13:35 PM, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#14452] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/26

[#14492] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/12/27

On Dec 26, 2007, at 06:16 AM, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#14494] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/27

[#14503] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2007/12/27

[#14505] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/27

Richard Kilmer wrote:

[#14429] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — hemant <gethemant@...> 2007/12/25

On Dec 26, 2007 1:01 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#14430] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2007/12/25

hemant wrote:

[#14517] Invalid use of mktime() in Ruby 1.8/1.9 results in incorrect Time objects — Dirkjan Bussink <d.bussink@...>

Hello,

12 messages 2007/12/27

[#14549] multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — khaines@...

Like everyone else, I've been testing my stuff under 1.9.0. In general,

38 messages 2007/12/28
[#14560] Re: multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — Brent Roman <brent@...> 2007/12/28

[#14573] Re: multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/29

Brent Roman wrote:

[#14603] Re: multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — Brent Roman <brent@...> 2007/12/30

[#14617] Re: multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/12/31

In article <14544702.post@talk.nabble.com>,

[#14568] Layout of includes in ruby 1.9 — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...>

19 messages 2007/12/29
[#14576] Re: Layout of includes in ruby 1.9 — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/12/29

On Dec 29, 2007 2:39 AM, Gonzalo Garramu=F1o <ggarra@advancedsl.com.ar> wro=

[#14569] Wide strings to ruby strings — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...>

11 messages 2007/12/29

[#14602] RCR allow indexing last n items — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...>

Hello

15 messages 2007/12/30
[#14609] Re: RCR allow indexing last n items — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/12/30

Hi --

[#14610] Re: RCR allow indexing last n items — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2007/12/30

On 30/12/2007, David A. Black <dblack@rubypal.com> wrote:

[#14616] Re: RCR allow indexing last n items — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/12/30

Hi --

[#14621] Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — murphy <murphy@...>

Hello!

21 messages 2007/12/31
[#14622] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — "Cheah Chu Yeow" <chuyeow@...> 2007/12/31

This looks like a related bug with passing block arguments to

[#14633] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/31

Cheah Chu Yeow wrote:

[#14716] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2008/01/03

Hi,

[#14726] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — ts <decoux@...> 2008/01/03

>>>>> "S" == SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net> writes:

[#14728] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2008/01/03

Hi,

[#16093] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — "Jeremy Kemper" <jeremy@...> 2008/04/01

Hi,

Re: Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance

From: Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>
Date: 2007-12-22 14:07:25 UTC
List: ruby-core #14266
Brent Roman wrote:
> 
> Charles Oliver Nutter-2 wrote:
>>
>> I'd love to know what broke in JRuby. I tried both benchmarks and 
>> they're very snappy on my machine. We're making a big push to get JRuby 
>> threading solid, so please let us know what you've seen.
>>
>>
> 
> I'd like to work with you on this after the holidays.
> In the meantime, I've attached a java backtrace
> of the failure in our dreaded "killer app"
> Let me know if you can glean anything from it that will
> help me create a simple test case for you.
> 
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p14467248/jruby-1.1b1.backtrace
> jruby-1.1b1.backtrace 
> 
> By the way,
> The benchmark numbers I see here are very consistent with your claim
> that JRuby is faster than Ruby 1.8.6.  In this case, it's a lot faster:
> 
>                Unpatched 1.8.6    Patched 1.8.6   JRuby 1.1b1      Ruby 1.9
> Bench #1  22sec / 16 MB       4sec  / 7 MB     3.5sec / 21 MB    0.06sec
> Bench #2  35sec / 10 MB      15sec  / 7 MB    2.8sec / 17 MB    0.36sec
> 
> I realize that these numbers penalize JRuby for its JVM start up delay,
> but, even so, it's clear that when Ruby 1.9 is finally ready, 
> it will be the horse to beat ;-)
> 
> Note that I had to patch my version of 1.9 to implement Thread.critical=
> to run benchmark #2.  This is quite straightforward as long as the
> global interpreter lock continues to exist.  I'm surprised that 
> JRuby accepts Thread.critical=.  How did JRuby implement this
> atop a JVM?

In JRuby, all threads executing Ruby code checkpoint at the same places 
Ruby 1.8.6 checks if a context switch is indicated. In Ruby 1.8.6 that 
context switch flag is set every 10ms (10ms timeslicing), but in JRuby, 
we only look for cross-thread events at these checkpoints since threads 
are running concurrently.

See my description of threading in Ruby here:

http://spec.ruby-doc.org/wiki/Ruby_Threading

and JRuby here:

http://spec.ruby-doc.org/wiki/JRuby_Threading

Both haven't been updated in a while, but should still be correct. I'd 
love to have a Ruby 1.9 article alongside them, and I hope you and 
others will make updates to either article as you see fit.

Checkpointing does introduce some overhead, but we've pared it down a 
lot to avoid locking as much as possible. I'd love to see a day where we 
could turn off all the dangerous cross-thread operations, effectively 
eliminating checkpointing entirely, but I don't think it's likely to happen.

Provably unsafe thread operations Ruby supports and should not:

stop
exit/exit!/kill/kill!/terminate/terminate!
raise
global abort_on_exception

Operations which are largely incompatible with concurrent threading 
(which Ruby can't support if it wants to support concurrent threading well):

critical=

I'll enumerate the reasons why these are unsafe if anyone wants to know. 
I think Java's threading is a good model here; it provides the thread 
operations that can be safely supported and does not provide the others.

Here's an article that explains some of the reasons:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/misc/threadPrimitiveDeprecation.html

- Charlie

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