[#13842] Better introspection for Frames, Thread, and enhancing binding. — "Rocky Bernstein" <rocky.bernstein@...>

The below is a little long. So here's a summary.

11 messages 2007/12/01

[#13851] Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — "Voroztsov Artem" <artem.voroztsov@...>

I encountered problem with Array#flatten slowness (it can be much

19 messages 2007/12/03
[#13863] Re: Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/03

Voroztsov Artem wrote:

[#13867] Re: Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — "Voroztsov Artem" <artem.voroztsov@...> 2007/12/03

2007/12/3, Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@sun.com>:

[#13868] Re: Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — "Voroztsov Artem" <artem.voroztsov@...> 2007/12/03

2007/12/3, Voroztsov Artem <artem.voroztsov@gmail.com>:

[#13870] Re: Array#flatten works quadratic time on length of resulting array. It could be linear — "Yusuke ENDOH" <mame@...> 2007/12/03

Hi,

[#13903] Clarification of retry change — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>

Matz confirmed that retry-outside-rescue will no longer work, but I

14 messages 2007/12/07
[#13905] Re: Clarification of retry change — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2007/12/07

Hi,

[#13908] What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...>

20 messages 2007/12/07
[#13913] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/12/07

Hi,

[#13914] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...> 2007/12/07

Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:

[#13926] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2007/12/07

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[#14038] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — "Joe Swatosh" <joe.swatosh@...> 2007/12/12

Hi Luis

[#14039] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2007/12/12

On Dec 12, 2007 4:05 PM, Joe Swatosh <joe.swatosh@gmail.com> wrote:

[#14040] Re: [Spam] Re: What's the status of compiler/compiling on windows? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2007/12/12

> This was discussed in other thread in ruby-talk, but just to summarize:

[#13969] redefineable not operator — David Flanagan <david@...>

Matz,

37 messages 2007/12/10
[#13971] Re: redefineable not operator — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/10

David Flanagan wrote:

[#13972] Re: redefineable not operator — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/12/10

Hi,

[#14007] Re: redefineable not operator — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/11

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#14011] Re: redefineable not operator — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/12/11

Hi,

[#14013] Re: redefineable not operator — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/12

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#14016] Re: redefineable not operator — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/12/12

murphy wrote:

[#14019] Re: redefineable not operator — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/12/12

Hi,

[#14024] Re: redefineable not operator — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2007/12/12

[#14029] Re: redefineable not operator — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/12

[#14042] Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

E2MM.Raise complains about $! being read-only now, and E2MM is used by

22 messages 2007/12/13
[#14043] Re: Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9 — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/13

[#14049] RDoc + irb (Was: Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/12/13

On Dec 12, 2007, at 16:19 PM, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#14052] Re: RDoc + irb (Was: Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9) — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/13

[#14056] Re: RDoc + irb (Was: Fix e2mmap.rb for 1.9) — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/13

Dave Thomas wrote:

[#14123] Some Ruby 1.9 loose ends to tie up — David Flanagan <david@...>

Matz,

20 messages 2007/12/17
[#14220] Re: Some Ruby 1.9 loose ends to tie up — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/12/21

Hi,

[#14238] Re: Some Ruby 1.9 loose ends to tie up — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#14147] named captures assigning to local variables — David Flanagan <david@...>

I've just been browsing ruby-dev. For an english speaker, it is kind of

26 messages 2007/12/19
[#14150] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/12/19

In article <47686B87.7050609@davidflanagan.com>,

[#14158] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — david@... 2007/12/19

Thank you for the clarification, akr. I'm embarassed to say that it didn't

[#14161] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/12/20

If I may, have a proposal. My apologies if this has already been

[#14170] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/12/20

In article <476A087E.3070000@davidflanagan.com>,

[#14172] Re: named captures assigning to local variables — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/12/20

How about making the return value an array of the captured strings, or nil

[#14149] Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Brent Roman <brent@...>

The attached patch against Ruby 1.8.6-p110 improves the performance of

38 messages 2007/12/19
[#14202] Re: Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/21

Brent Roman wrote:

[#14257] Re: Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Brent Roman <brent@...> 2007/12/22

[#14266] Re: Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/22

Brent Roman wrote:

[#14274] Re: Experimental PATCH to improve thread performance — Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain.joyeux@...4x.org> 2007/12/22

On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 11:07:25PM +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#14186] Rake 0.8.0 added to Ruby — Jim Weirich <jim.weirich@...>

Just a heads up here. I've added Rake (version 0.8.0 ... the latest)

34 messages 2007/12/21
[#14210] Re: [Spam] Rake 0.8.0 added to Ruby — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...> 2007/12/21

Jim Weirich wrote:

[#14213] Re: [Spam] Rake 0.8.0 added to Ruby — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/12/21

On Dec 21, 2007 10:24 AM, Gonzalo Garramu=F1o <ggarra@advancedsl.com.ar> wr=

[#14215] Re: [Spam] Rake 0.8.0 added to Ruby — Jim Weirich <jim.weirich@...> 2007/12/21

[#14303] IRHG - GC Memory Fragmentation? — Charles Thornton <ceo@...>

While working on Chapter 05 and referencing various works

23 messages 2007/12/23
[#14308] Re: IRHG - GC Memory Fragmentation? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2007/12/23

[#14335] Many external symbols _without_ prefix in libruby object file — Tadashi Saito <shiba@...2.accsnet.ne.jp>

Hi all,

12 messages 2007/12/23

[#14364] RDoc: [FATAL] failed to allocate memory — Martin Duerst <duerst@...>

With revision 14590, I suddenly get an error when I do "make install"

13 messages 2007/12/24

[#14367] replace csv.rb with fastercsv.rb — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...>

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15 messages 2007/12/24
[#14390] Re: replace csv.rb with fastercsv.rb — James Gray <james@...> 2007/12/24

On Dec 24, 2007, at 3:34 AM, NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#14418] Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0 — Richard Kilmer <rich@...>

Just re-built latest svn of 1.9.0 and base64.rb is removed. Its

51 messages 2007/12/25
[#14420] Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/12/25

On Dec 25, 2007, at 07:03 AM, Richard Kilmer wrote:

[#14427] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2007/12/25

Eric Hodel wrote:

[#14431] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/25

[#14446] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/12/26

On Dec 25, 2007, at 13:35 PM, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#14452] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/26

[#14492] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/12/27

On Dec 26, 2007, at 06:16 AM, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#14494] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2007/12/27

[#14503] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2007/12/27

[#14505] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/12/27

Richard Kilmer wrote:

[#14429] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — hemant <gethemant@...> 2007/12/25

On Dec 26, 2007 1:01 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#14430] Re: Legacy support (Was: Base64 not there makes Rails 2.0.2 fail to load in 1.9.0) — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2007/12/25

hemant wrote:

[#14517] Invalid use of mktime() in Ruby 1.8/1.9 results in incorrect Time objects — Dirkjan Bussink <d.bussink@...>

Hello,

12 messages 2007/12/27

[#14549] multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — khaines@...

Like everyone else, I've been testing my stuff under 1.9.0. In general,

38 messages 2007/12/28
[#14560] Re: multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — Brent Roman <brent@...> 2007/12/28

[#14573] Re: multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/29

Brent Roman wrote:

[#14603] Re: multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — Brent Roman <brent@...> 2007/12/30

[#14617] Re: multibyte strings & bucket-of-bytes efficiency under 1.9.0 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/12/31

In article <14544702.post@talk.nabble.com>,

[#14568] Layout of includes in ruby 1.9 — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...>

19 messages 2007/12/29
[#14576] Re: Layout of includes in ruby 1.9 — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2007/12/29

On Dec 29, 2007 2:39 AM, Gonzalo Garramu=F1o <ggarra@advancedsl.com.ar> wro=

[#14569] Wide strings to ruby strings — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...>

11 messages 2007/12/29

[#14602] RCR allow indexing last n items — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...>

Hello

15 messages 2007/12/30
[#14609] Re: RCR allow indexing last n items — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/12/30

Hi --

[#14610] Re: RCR allow indexing last n items — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2007/12/30

On 30/12/2007, David A. Black <dblack@rubypal.com> wrote:

[#14616] Re: RCR allow indexing last n items — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/12/30

Hi --

[#14621] Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — murphy <murphy@...>

Hello!

21 messages 2007/12/31
[#14622] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — "Cheah Chu Yeow" <chuyeow@...> 2007/12/31

This looks like a related bug with passing block arguments to

[#14633] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — murphy <murphy@...> 2007/12/31

Cheah Chu Yeow wrote:

[#14716] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2008/01/03

Hi,

[#14726] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — ts <decoux@...> 2008/01/03

>>>>> "S" == SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net> writes:

[#14728] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2008/01/03

Hi,

[#16093] Re: Module.new(&block) in Ruby 1.9 — "Jeremy Kemper" <jeremy@...> 2008/04/01

Hi,

Better introspection for Frames, Thread, and enhancing binding.

From: "Rocky Bernstein" <rocky.bernstein@...>
Date: 2007-12-01 14:32:00 UTC
List: ruby-core #13842
The below is a little long. So here's a summary.

 Ideally what I'd like in 1.9, 1.9.1 or 2.0:
  * Frame/Block objects which contains
    - line, (may be nil)
    - method, # of args  (may be nil)
    - access to a binding object which we can eval for access to that scope
(not nil)
    My understanding is this information is around at run time.

  * Thread Object which gives access to the Frame/Block above. So access to
the Frame object could be via a something like thread.caller(level-number).

  * Enough added to the C-API added (e.g. parts of vm_core.h) to be able to
write code to do the above.

- - -
I've been considering what it would take to update ruby-debug or something
similar so it would work in Ruby 1.9. Since I have great respect for both,
it is with a lot of trepidation that I dare to criticize either.

One thing I'd like to do in ruby-debug for 1.9 is decoupling the frame
handling from the rest of the debugger. This is interesting and useful in
its own right.

I've found Ruby's 1.8 $! (backtrace) information seems a little bit
strange. Compare with say Perl's "caller". From Perl's doc:

    ($package, $filename, $line) = caller;

    With EXPR, it returns some extra information that the debugger
    uses to print a stack trace. The value of EXPR indicates how many
    call frames to go back before the current one.

    ($package, $filename, $line, $subroutine, $hasargs,
    $wantarray, $evaltext, $is_require, $hints, $bitmask) = caller($i);

First, $! is set only after an exception. This is very useful, but one would
like to have a way to do this for the current call frame as well. Second, $!
is an array of strings and where each string encodes something like the
first form. Given the capabilities of Ruby, it seems so shellish to encode
bits of information in a string that one might want separately.  (On the
other hand, it is also pretty easy to parse out the bits of info). Third, in
Perl's longer version of caller we find the subroutine/method name, whether
it has arguments, and other information.

But again, Ruby is pretty cool, and agile. So I set off to write a class
using the C-API to get all of this. And to my surprise, I realized I was
least surprised! If $! (or a call-frame version) doesn't give things that I
want like the names of the parameters, their values, and access to their
scopes, it's because that information isn't there in the in the frame. Well
not in the C "FRAME" structure.  Instead there are SCOPE and BLOCK
structures which have information about variables. Still, one can get the
number of arguments used in the call and the method name; this would be
helpful.

I have such a frame class written for 1.8.x and aside from possibly some
bugs I can make that available in this limited-useful state. In 1.9, things
change around a lot so this code can't be used without change.

So how is it that Ruby's "debug" module is able to show the call stack and
evaluate expressions in the context of outer frames? Well, it does this by
intercepting each call and squirrels away information on a stack that it
will need. (I think irb if not other programs do this too.) Key in this
saved information is a binding. This extra overhead in saving information is
one of the things that slows down "debug". However getting binding could
also be done (sort of) by tracking down run-time thread/frame/scope/block
structures.

When I tried to write this Frame class in 1.9 I run into a problem that a
lot of these thread and control_frame structures are not exposed. In Ruby
1.8 this appears in env.h. In 1.9 the some of corresponding things such as
rb_control_frame_t or rb_block_t seem to be in vm_core.h. One could cut and
paste from this, but this is a poor solution.

Thanks.

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