[#309764] The Rubyist -- a semi-monthly magazine for Rubyists AVAILABLE NOW — "Jeremy McAnally" <jeremymcanally@...>

Hello all,

9 messages 2008/08/01

[#309802] Using array.select with grep — Milo Thurston <knirirr@...>

Using irb I set up the following arrays:

16 messages 2008/08/01

[#309821] About circular dependencies in RubyGems (the library). And about the order in $". — "Erik Veenstra" <erikveen@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2008/08/01

[#309824] Determining MAC address — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...>

What would be the best (clean, cross-platform) way of determining the MAC

12 messages 2008/08/01

[#309867] Capturing shell command output and success? — "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@...>

I know shell commands have beaten to death on this list, but searching

10 messages 2008/08/01

[#309878] Help finding this syntax error — Patrick Li <patrickli_2001@...>

<code>

14 messages 2008/08/01

[#309903] unit testing advice — Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@...>

Forgive me if this is a stupid question.

58 messages 2008/08/01
[#309905] Re: unit testing advice — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2008/08/01

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@gmail.com> wrote:

[#309907] Re: unit testing advice — Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@...> 2008/08/01

Many thanks. Clearly I'm going to have to go back to research mode on

[#309916] Re: unit testing advice — Phlip <phlip2005@...> 2008/08/02

Shadowfirebird wrote:

[#309947] Re: unit testing advice — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/08/02

Hi --

[#309948] Re: unit testing advice — Phlip <phlip2005@...> 2008/08/02

David A. Black wrote:

[#309949] Re: unit testing advice — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/08/02

Hi --

[#309960] Re: unit testing advice — Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@...> 2008/08/02

I certainly "get" the idea that it's better to write the tests first.

[#309966] Re: unit testing advice — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/08/02

Hi --

[#309979] Re: unit testing advice — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/08/02

David A. Black wrote:

[#309983] Re: unit testing advice — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/08/02

Hi --

[#310011] Re: unit testing advice — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/08/03

David A. Black wrote:

[#310018] Re: unit testing advice — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/08/03

Hi --

[#310050] RubyConf 2008 call for talk proposals — Richard Kilmer <rich@...>

Ruby Central is pleased to announce that we are accepting

11 messages 2008/08/04

[#310127] hash code reference - this only returns 'nil' please help me — Mmcolli00 Mom <mmc_collins@...>

Please tell me what I am doing wrong. i thought h[ErrFieldID] would work

12 messages 2008/08/04
[#310128] Re: hash code reference - this only returns 'nil' please help me — Sebastian Hungerecker <sepp2k@...> 2008/08/04

Mmcolli00 Mom wrote:

[#310131] Re: hash code reference - this only returns 'nil' please help me — Mmcolli00 Mom <mmc_collins@...> 2008/08/04

Sebastian Hungerecker wrote:

[#310154] Matrix class: How to set a single element ? — Marcio Braga <mbraga0001@...>

simple code:

11 messages 2008/08/05

[#310159] State of the Onion — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...>

http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/46724-1.html

36 messages 2008/08/05
[#310179] Re: State of the Onion — "Michael T. Richter" <ttmrichter@...> 2008/08/05

On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 11:05 +0900, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#310190] Re: State of the Onion — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/08/05

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Michael T. Richter <ttmrichter@gmail.com> wrote:

[#310217] perl and the culture of libraries — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...>

http://blog.jrock.us/articles/You%20are%20missing%20the%20point%20of%20Perl.pod

60 messages 2008/08/05
[#310219] Re: perl and the culture of libraries — "Peter Fitzgibbons" <peter.fitzgibbons@...> 2008/08/05

I'm on board.

[#310223] Re: perl and the culture of libraries — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/08/05

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons

[#310228] Re: perl and the culture of libraries — "Peter Fitzgibbons" <peter.fitzgibbons@...> 2008/08/05

Sounds like some changes to rubygems and it's toolset.

[#310232] Re: perl and the culture of libraries — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/08/05

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons

[#310237] Re: perl and the culture of libraries — "Peter Fitzgibbons" <peter.fitzgibbons@...> 2008/08/05

Isn't it true, though, that rubygems are the defacto distribution model for

[#310240] Re: perl and the culture of libraries — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/08/05

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons

[#310249] Re: perl and the culture of libraries — Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@...> 2008/08/05

I don't wish to be critical (I really don't! That's not just a way of

[#310312] Re: perl and the culture of libraries — David Masover <ninja@...> 2008/08/06

On Tuesday 05 August 2008 07:56:22 Martin DeMello wrote:

[#310339] Re: perl and the culture of libraries — Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@...> 2008/08/06

I've seen some things posted in this thread (overnight for me) that I

[#310295] State of Ruby 1.8.6? — Jeff <cohen.jeff@...>

Can anyone provide an update to the state of Ruby 1.8.6?

19 messages 2008/08/05
[#310305] Re: State of Ruby 1.8.6? — Alex Fenton <alex@...> 2008/08/06

Jeff wrote:

[#310314] is there a way to AutoParse a string to another type - e.g. if a Date format then date, else if integer than Integer etc ????? — "Greg Hauptmann" <greg.hauptmann.ruby@...>

Hi,

7 messages 2008/08/06

[#310358] Threaded IO trouble — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...>

Hello

13 messages 2008/08/06

[#310393] An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. — Alexei Broner <lahgyk@...>

Hi, I'm Lex. I've been Rubying for a few months now and can't get

47 messages 2008/08/06
[#310582] Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. — Alexei Broner <lahgyk@...> 2008/08/08

You guys are no fun. I didn't even get "that's not really recursive,

[#310584] Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/08/08

Hi,

[#310591] Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. — Trans <transfire@...> 2008/08/08

[#310639] Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/08/08

Trans wrote:

[#310731] Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. — Trans <transfire@...> 2008/08/10

[#310740] Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/08/10

Trans wrote:

[#310745] Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. — Trans <transfire@...> 2008/08/10

[#310413] Need help detecting overlapping ranges — Bryan Richardson <btrichardson@...>

Hello all,

18 messages 2008/08/06
[#310429] Re: Need help detecting overlapping ranges — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/08/06

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Bryan Richardson

[#310518] Most compact command for associate array 'totalling'? — John Pritchard-williams <monojohnny@...>

Ok - in 'awk' you can do this: (Where 'array' is empty initially)

10 messages 2008/08/07

[#310531] Ruby 1.8.7-p71 / 1.8.6-p286 released (Security Fix) — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...>

At last.

13 messages 2008/08/08

[#310540] Ruby IDE — "Mayuresh Kathe" <kathe.mayuresh@...>

Hello,

52 messages 2008/08/08
[#310600] Re: Ruby IDE — "Jayson Williams" <williams.jayson@...> 2008/08/08

I like working in NetBeans, but even on the Quad processor computer at

[#310603] Re: Ruby IDE — Dana Merrick <dmerrick@...> 2008/08/08

Jayson Williams wrote:

[#310610] Re: Ruby IDE — "Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@...> 2008/08/08

To piggy-back on and emphasize the importance of Dana's point,

[#310719] Re: Ruby IDE — "Piyush Ranjan" <piyush.pr@...> 2008/08/09

I second emacs

[#310725] Re: Ruby IDE — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2008/08/09

On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 05:25 +0900, Piyush Ranjan wrote:

[#310726] Re: Ruby IDE — Matt Lawrence <matt@...> 2008/08/09

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#310733] Re: Ruby IDE — Joshua Ballanco <jballanc@...> 2008/08/10

Matt Lawrence wrote:

[#310814] Re: Ruby IDE — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/08/11

On 8/9/08, Joshua Ballanco <jballanc@gmail.com> wrote:

[#310580] Non-Threaded Timeout? — Bryan Richardson <btrichardson@...>

Hell all,

30 messages 2008/08/08

[#310837] gem (update ?) problem — Peter Krieg <pk.hot@...>

Hello,

21 messages 2008/08/11

[#310865] Sort array by two attributes? (like sql "order by A, B") — Max Williams <toastkid.williams@...>

IN sql we can pass two arguments to the 'order by' component, and it

9 messages 2008/08/11

[#310921] Problems with accessing directory defined in ENV variables — Thomas Luedeke <thomas.luedeke@...>

Ruby is giving me pure hell trying to access directories on a mounted

10 messages 2008/08/11

[#310947] Sigh! I'm depressed. Debian vs Ruby and the backtick and subshells — John Carter <john.carter@...>

I have just strace'd weird bug to it's root cause.

20 messages 2008/08/12

[#310950] Ruby 1.9: What to Expect by Sam Ruby @ OSCON 2008 Slide Deck Adapted S6/S9 (Single-Web Page) Version — "Gerald Bauer" <geraldbauer2007@...>

Hello,

15 messages 2008/08/12
[#311073] Re: Ruby 1.9: What to Expect by Sam Ruby @ OSCON 2008 Slide Deck Adapted S6/S9 (Single-Web Page) Version — Iki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/08/12

El Martes, 12 de Agosto de 2008, Gerald Bauer escribi=F3:

[#311080] Re: Ruby 1.9: What to Expect by Sam Ruby @ OSCON 2008 Slide Deck Adapted S6/S9 (Single-Web Page) Version — "Jeremy Kemper" <jeremy@...> 2008/08/12

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:36 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote=

[#311085] Re: Ruby 1.9: What to Expect by Sam Ruby @ OSCON 2008 Slide Deck Adapted S6/S9 (Single-Web Page) Version — Iki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/08/12

El Martes, 12 de Agosto de 2008, Jeremy Kemper escribi=F3:

[#311086] Re: Ruby 1.9: What to Expect by Sam Ruby @ OSCON 2008 Slide Deck Adapted S6/S9 (Single-Web Page) Version — Iki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/08/12

El Martes, 12 de Agosto de 2008, I=F1aki Baz Castillo escribi=F3:

[#310988] what do you think of this code? — "Ben Aurel" <ben.aurel@...>

hi

16 messages 2008/08/12
[#310992] Re: what do you think of this code? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2008/08/12

On Tuesday 12 August 2008, Ben Aurel wrote:

[#311235] Mutithreading to implement near 7000 to 10000 mssage per min — Kaja Mohaideen <kajamohaideen_2003@...>

Hello,

10 messages 2008/08/14

[#311256] Idiom of removing a particular character from a String? — "Lorenzo E. Danielsson" <danielsson.lorenzo@...>

Hi all,

12 messages 2008/08/14

[#311390] Not So Random (#173) — "Matthew Moss" <matthew.moss@...>

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20 messages 2008/08/15

[#311427] BDD and TDD - What are they for? — "Clinton D. Judy" <cdj@...>

I'd like someone to give me very basic reasons for why I need Behavior

42 messages 2008/08/15
[#311655] Re: BDD and TDD - What are they for? — paron <rphillips@...> 2008/08/18

On Aug 16, 11:27=A0am, Eleanor McHugh <elea...@games-with-brains.com>

[#311469] firefox html, my downloaded html and firebug html different? — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Hi Im a relatively new rubyist and programmer in general and currently

10 messages 2008/08/16

[#311517] I wish to learn Ruby ,can anyone teach me??? — Amitanshu Gour <amitanshu_gour@...>

I am a beginner in Programming and don't have much idea about any

10 messages 2008/08/16

[#311523] writing if statement in one line with elsif condition — "Luiz Vitor Martinez Cardoso" <grabber@...>

I'm trying to convert it:

10 messages 2008/08/17

[#311553] Matrix: Need help to understand this behavior — Marcio Braga <mbraga0001@...>

a=[1]

10 messages 2008/08/17

[#311571] Security in use of contants — Kless <jonas.esp@...>

Is secure use constants?

40 messages 2008/08/17

[#311668] Hash#each vs Hash#each_pair — "Patrick Doyle" <wpdster@...>

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I'm curious to learn the rationale behind

12 messages 2008/08/18

[#311803] Cut a string if length > n — Pål Bergström <pal@...>

What's the best way to cut a string if the length is above n characters?

15 messages 2008/08/19

[#311843] Shortest Ruby crash #49 — Limo Driver <melezov@...>

My contribution to the contest:

15 messages 2008/08/19

[#311937] A Mascot... — "Mayuresh Kathe" <kathe.mayuresh@...>

Hi,

100 messages 2008/08/20
[#311969] Re: A Mascot... — Phlip <phlip2005@...> 2008/08/20

Mayuresh Kathe wrote:

[#311979] Re: A Mascot... — "Mayuresh Kathe" <kathe.mayuresh@...> 2008/08/20

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Phlip <phlip2005@gmail.com> wrote:

[#311980] Re: A Mascot... — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2008/08/20

On 20/08/2008, Mayuresh Kathe <kathe.mayuresh@gmail.com> wrote:

[#311983] Re: A Mascot... — "Clinton D. Judy" <cdj@...> 2008/08/20

V2hpY2ggaXMgd2h5IGEgZ3JlYXQgZ3JhcGhpYyBkZXNpZ25lciBjb3VsZCBjb21lIHVwIHdpdGgg

[#311984] Re: A Mascot... — "Mayuresh Kathe" <kathe.mayuresh@...> 2008/08/20

Clinton, what's your opinion about http://www.hexley.com/

[#312284] Re: A Mascot... — Karl von Laudermann <doodpants@...> 2008/08/22

On Aug 21, 8:26=A0pm, Joshua Ballanco <jball...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#312302] Re: A Mascot... — "Pablo Q." <paqs140482@...> 2008/08/22

I like it! :D, but If you haven=B4t read all post before please do it,

[#312305] Re: A Mascot... — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2008/08/22

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Pablo Q. <paqs140482@gmail.com> wrote:

[#311950] array of hashes - need to iterate and calulate stats but how — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

I making a script which generates some basic stats for completed

19 messages 2008/08/20
[#311952] Re: array of hashes - need to iterate and calulate stats but how — Lex Williams <etaern@...> 2008/08/20

something like this :

[#311962] Re: array of hashes - need to iterate and calulate stats but how — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/08/20

Hi --

[#312026] Iterating through a hash — "Brian Ross" <p.brian.ross@...>

How can I iterate through a hash so that each key is modified and saved into

13 messages 2008/08/20

[#312048] unintuitive language feature (exclamation functions) — Nick Brown <ruby-forum.com@...>

I was surprised to discover that the code

20 messages 2008/08/20
[#312050] Re: unintuitive language feature (exclamation functions) — "F. Senault" <fred@...> 2008/08/20

Le 20 ao皦 2008 21:45, Nick Brown a 馗rit :

[#312054] Re: unintuitive language feature (exclamation functions) — Nick Brown <ruby-forum.com@...> 2008/08/20

F. Senault wrote:

[#312068] "num in [1,2,3,4]" in a cool way? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, AFAIK in Ruby the only (or the "coolest") way to do something as:

17 messages 2008/08/20

[#312360] DoS vulnerability in REXML — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...>

Hello,

16 messages 2008/08/23
[#312384] Re: [ANN] DoS vulnerability in REXML — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/08/23

Shugo Maeda wrote:

[#312391] Re: [ANN] DoS vulnerability in REXML — "Christopher Dicely" <cmdicely@...> 2008/08/23

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:28 AM, James Britt <james.britt@gmail.com> wrote:

[#312411] Re: [ANN] DoS vulnerability in REXML — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/08/23

Christopher Dicely wrote:

[#312378] Uptime Since... (#174) — "Matthew Moss" <matthew.moss@...>

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26 messages 2008/08/23

[#312388] Why 'if 0' succeeds in Ruby — Phlip <phlip2005@...>

Rubiods:

21 messages 2008/08/23

[#312401] Open file, get first line, delete first line close file — Richard Schneeman <thedickster@...>

Hey, i'm trying to open a file, get the first line of the file, delete

17 messages 2008/08/23

[#312482] Moving all files in a folder to another hard drive — SpringFlowers AutumnMoon <summercoolness@...>

I have some code below to move all files in a folder to another hard

14 messages 2008/08/24

[#312573] Regular Expressions — Newb Newb <hema@...>

I have a image url like this <img src

16 messages 2008/08/25

[#312655] Unraveling binary data out of the proc filesystem on Solaris — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>

Hi all,

13 messages 2008/08/25
[#312679] Re: Unraveling binary data out of the proc filesystem on Solaris — "Heesob Park" <phasis@...> 2008/08/26

Hi,

[#312734] Passing a block with define_method — "James Coglan" <jcoglan@...>

Hi list,

14 messages 2008/08/26

[#312739] MissingSourceFile: no such file to load -- sqlite3/database — Jo縊 Maca兊a <joao.macaiba@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2008/08/26

[#312792] Chris Pine Tutorial 99 Bottles of Beer Program — danielj <sleepingindian@...>

Just a beginner with a question about this:

15 messages 2008/08/26

[#312795] Deaf Grandma — danielj <sleepingindian@...>

Also from the Chris Pine tutorial for beginners:

20 messages 2008/08/27

[#312825] how to avoid passing by reference and how to copy objects — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Hi after a bit of searching and reading im quite confused by this.

12 messages 2008/08/27

[#312839] Difficult Inheritance Problem — Toby Clemson <tobyclemson@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2008/08/27

[#312875] encrypting password on form submit? — "Amanda .." <a.etherton@...>

Hi there, I'm trying to use a form to create a user for a site. All the

19 messages 2008/08/27

[#312906] Having a difficult time with Case statements. — Chris Bailey <christopher.sean.bailey@...>

I am trying to implement a simple frontend for a text adventure that

12 messages 2008/08/27

[#312989] specifying a network interface, with a http get request — Andrew Parlane <ajp97@...>

Hi all, I'm fairly new to Ruby but have learnt a lot in the last month

13 messages 2008/08/28
[#313071] Re: specifying a network interface, with a http get request — John Pritchard-williams <monojohnny@...> 2008/08/28

Hi Andy,

[#313182] Re: specifying a network interface, with a http get request — Andrew Parlane <ajp97@...> 2008/08/29

Hey John,

[#312990] Beginner help: Problem installing sqlite3 on Windows XP — Kasper Frederiksen <kasper@...>

Hi Everyone,

11 messages 2008/08/28

[#313031] A general doubt — Rock Roll <karoljouis@...>

If I am developing a Windows application in Ruby using FxRuby or WxRuby,

28 messages 2008/08/28
[#313038] Re: A general doubt — Michael Morin <uzimonkey@...> 2008/08/28

Rock Roll wrote:

[#313070] Use a string as a method call — Chris Bailey <christopher.sean.bailey@...>

I'm trying to come up with an efficient way of using user input as a

16 messages 2008/08/28

[#313098] Please don't flame me...why is there no "++" in Ruby again ? — John Pritchard-williams <monojohnny@...>

There's must be very good simple reason why there is no 'x++' method

24 messages 2008/08/28
[#313100] Re: Please don't flame me...why is there no "++" in Ruby again ? — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2008/08/28

John Pritchard-williams wrote:

[#313164] Re: Please don't flame me...why is there no "++" in Ruby again ? — David Masover <ninja@...> 2008/08/29

On Thursday 28 August 2008 16:25:59 Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#313131] Class === — "RubyTalk@..." <rubytalk@...>

I need help with === and Objects

20 messages 2008/08/29
[#313135] Re: Class === — "Patrick Doyle" <wpdster@...> 2008/08/29

and I would also like to know why

[#313196] Computing folder size - do you have something cleaner than this ? — Thibaut Barr鑽e <thibaut.barrere@...>

Hi guys,

11 messages 2008/08/29

[#313242] Where the Required Things Are (#175) — "Matthew Moss" <matthew.moss@...>

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21 messages 2008/08/29

[#313379] instance_eval/class_eval including/extending modules — Pedro Silva <ei04065@...>

Consider the following example:

14 messages 2008/08/30
[#313401] Re: instance_eval/class_eval including/extending modules — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/08/31

HI --

[#313428] Re: instance_eval/class_eval including/extending modules — Pedro Silva <ei04065@...> 2008/08/31

David, thanks for your reply.

[#313432] Re: instance_eval/class_eval including/extending modules — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/08/31

Hi --

[#313399] Difference between dir/**/* and dir/*? — Ben Johnson <bjohnson@...>

I've noticed the following when specifying a wildcard array of files:

14 messages 2008/08/31

Re: BDD and TDD - What are they for?

From: Phlip <phlip2005@...>
Date: 2008-08-15 21:12:14 UTC
List: ruby-talk #311438
Clinton D. Judy wrote:

> I'd like someone to give me very basic reasons for why I need Behavior
> Driven Development (BDD, see RSpec) and/or Test Driven Development (TDD,
> See Test::Unit).

Shine the "Phlip" symbol on the underside of the nearest cloud deck!

> I'm a fairly competent programmer. I think I use what they call an
> "iterative" style of programming; I don't rush out to build the entire
> program at once. I do a very small framework, then attempt to run it and
> see if it's giving me the result I expect. If it's not, then I figure
> out what's going wrong, and attempt to solve it before going on to the
> next small part. You could say I do several iterations in an hour, to
> give an idea of time.

When you say "attempt to run it", you should be mixing manual testing with 
running unit tests. They give a second opinion.

However, they are permanent. Imagine if you put a "mini-me" in a bottle, who 
came out and manually tested, instantly, each time you changed the code. Imagine 
if it would warn if nearly any behavior changed since the last run.

You could go faster - making bigger changes - with less manual testing.

> It looks like TDD does exactly what I'm doing, but introduces far more
> code to the equation.

Yet that code should be super-easy to write. A TDD test should obey the Assemble 
Activate Assert pattern:

   def test_case
     foo = assemble_foo()
     result = foo.activate()
     assert{ result == 42 }
   end

Compared to production code, that test code looks super-easy to write. Tip: The 
easier a test is to write, the cleaner and more decoupled your code is. So, 
counter-intuitively, the more lazy you get writing tests, the more pressure 
forces your code to decouple.

To do TDD, you write the test case first, then write code to pass the test. You 
only write new code if you have a failing test case. So your code is decoupled 
before it is even written.

 > One of the biggest features of TDD is being able
> to run a suite of tests to make sure new features don't break old
> features. Yet I have an eye for this while developing; I either fix the
> upcoming problem because I know it's going to happen, or I'm doing it
> wrong in the first place. Sure, I occasionally miss, but who doesn't? I
> find the issue as quickly as I can and resolve it in a clean style.

You should run a TDD test suite after the fewest possible edits: 10 at the most, 
and hopefully just 1. A coding session should go type-type Test, type-type Test, 
type-type Test, in tiny cycles.

If you delay to run the test, the more risk you absorb with your edits.

This helps sustain projects as they get huge; the code stays just as easy to 
work with as a tiny project. Nobody can cross-check everything in a huge program.

> BDD looks like a way to make it easy for non-programmers to do
> programming, but not having people keep several functions in mind at any
> one time. And it also does TDD? Am I close?

Yes - BDD is TDD with an added layer: A "literate programming" framework that 
forces you to think in clear English* statements that your client could understand.

*or whatever your client speaks!

That anyone can do TDD with BDD (and they do) speaks volumes about Ruby's 
ability to support easy and flexible DSLs.

> But everyone continually praises TDD and BDD, which leads me to believe
> I'm missing something profound that could make me a better programmer.
> So what's the big deal?

The big deals are: Almost no debugging, a super-high velocity, the ability to 
deploy any integration, the ability to rapidly share code with colleagues, code 
that strongly resists new bugs, and the ability to allow your client to "steer" 
your project, feature-by-feature, in real-time.

If your tests fail unexpectedly, the fault must lie in your last edit. You can 
undo or revert it. If your tests gate your Subversion or Gitorious version 
controller, then you know that you can always revert your code to get rid of a 
test failure. Working in tiny cycles, and constantly integrating your code, 
allows you to take bigger steps with more confidence.

Debugging is the greatest time-waster in all programming. Grizzled senior 
programmers (like some of my friends!) can all remember working on projects with 
bugs so big, you could spend the first week just isolating which module 
contained the bug. With debugging out of the way, you spend your remaining time 
understanding requirements, implementing them, integrating them, and deploying 
them. Your project goes very fast as your client learns to request very small 
features, each an increment over the existing features. Very few features go to 
waste. And a project with a complete test rig cannot lose its value over time. 
New code is often easier to write than old code, even despite projects with 
thousands of features. This metric is unheard of in software engineering, where 
new features are typically harder to write than the first ones.

If your tests gate your integrations, than you could deploy any integration. It 
might have unfinished features (and you might make their View buttons 
invisible!), but the tests will tell you it has no bugs. This metric is also 
unheard-of in classical programming, where a project typically must endure a 
"polish phase", as much as 25% of development time, to get it "ready to ship".

Next, if I need my colleagues to be able to mess with code I wrote (and vice 
versa), then I don't need them breaking it because they didn't understand it 
(what are the odds?:). If they run my tests (and they do!), then there's a 
little bit of me in them, working with them, keeping my features stable while 
they add theirs.

The TDD cycle has three steps: Write a test that fails for the correct reason, 
write simple code that passes the test, and refactor your code to make it clean 
and dry. Notice you don't refactor until the code passes its test. Refactoring 
means merging the new code with the preexisting code. And you don't refactor 
until your tests say the new code works. This implies only good code with valid 
features gets merged together. TDD's influence on design cannot be understated: 
It produces rock-solid code that strongly resists bugs.

Under classic software development, you would ask your client for a long list of 
features, then ask to be left alone for a while! Under TDD, your new features 
can be reviewed _as_ they emerge. Your client has better odds of getting the 
features they want if they practice "just in time requirements". They only 
require features in small increments from those installed features which they 
like. TDD allows a business cycle as short as a week to add features, review the 
code, and request for features. This improves the odds your client gets the 
features they need - not just some of the features they ask for. Your client no 
longer has the burden of predicting the future and planning every feature they 
might need.

The Ruby on Rails project has copious unit tests; its success is an example of 
these forces at work...

-- 
   Phlip

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