From: "Phil H." Date: 2013-03-28T23:33:23+09:00 Subject: Re: Chris Pine Tutorial 99 Bottles of Beer Program This problem with this and other examples are people are offering solution and techniques that have not been taught yet. I'm using the same book, Chris Pine's, Learn to Program. I feel if offering help, one should offer help based on the knowledge imparted thus far, even if more complicated than it should be. For instance with downto, when the challenge is given in the book, that method hasn't been talked about or even mentioned in passing. It shouldn't be given as a solution for people at that step in the book. I'm trying to learn as well, and this sort of thing is the hardest when seeking out help online. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.