From: Bill Kelly Date: 2008-08-06T05:28:58+09:00 Subject: Re: State of the Onion From: "James Gray" > On Aug 5, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Phlip wrote: >> >> How often do you actually need to do that, compared to the >> beginnings and ends of lines. > > Mac's have keyboard shortcuts for that that work in all applications. > They are apple-left/right arrow. > > The important point here is that it's clear you are passing judgement > on a platform you have not bothered to learn about. > > Let's end this off topic discussion here now please. Sorry, I can't resist, but I've had a Mac on my desk for the past five years. Every platform has its warts. Having to hold a modifier key to perform such a common cursor movement is something I think is arguably. . . . suboptimal. :D Home/End are the first keys I rebind in any Mac editor that will let me. An analogue on Windows is the desktop context menu for creating a new folder. It's buried in a submenu. The keyboard shortcut is also lengthy, Alt-F-W-F. I'm not sure longtime use of these platforms has done much to change my initial "wow, that's dumb" reactions to these misfeatures. :) Regards, Bill