From: Victor Reyes <victor.reyes@...>
Date: 2008-08-10T22:50:21+09:00
Subject: Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby.

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On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Aug 10, 1:49 am, James Britt <james.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Backing from matz would be nice but hardly essential. "Community
> > leaders" is an illusion; if you think there's a need for such a list, go
> > lead.
>
> That's sorely wrong. For the Ruby community, knowing that matz stands
> behind something makes a HUGE difference. Being able to add the list
> to the ruby-lang.org website is essential --and is controlled by matz
> and friends.
>
> That's not to say an unofficial list is not be possible, it just would
> be 100x harder to make effective --and for that, I doubt anyone really
> has the time and energy for; and it certainly could not be me. I'm not
> well liked by the community. In fact, the fact that *I* suggested it
> pretty much guarantees that it will never happen. Ha ha! My devious
> plan takes effect, Ruby will never have a beginner/expert list! ...
> (just kidding)
>
> T.
>
>
This post is not address to anyone in particular but I wish to get answers
from everyone, specially the non-beginners!

I normally don't get involve on this type of "theological" discussions,
specially since I am no more than a mere and simple beginner, and I feel
that I can't add anything to the big brainier discussion. That been said, I
have a problem with a beginner list:


   1. Would a beginner question receives a beginner's answer?
   2. How are we going to understand/learn new techniques and creativity
   which only the non-beginner posses? Please don't be arrogant and tell me to
   learn it like you did! Although I know that this not your problem, some
   people, like I, at times needs to see examples.
   3. When would a beginner like I be permitted into the big boys
   (non-beginner) club?
   4. What's wrong with being a beginner?

In the past I have learn interesting techniques from you, big boys,
non-beginners and I wish I could continue to count on that. I have received
answers from some of the Ruby book authors and from some of the Ruby
packages developers, also from just fun loving Ruby hackers, and YES from
beginners to.

If a person considers that a question is too simple and s(he) does not wants
to waste time on it, skip it. If your arrogance does not let you see your
feet, well good for you.
But please let us beginners feel comfortable and let Ruby grow with our
stupid questions!

Thanks

Victor

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