From: Randy Kramer Date: 2008-08-10T23:37:23+09:00 Subject: Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. On Sunday 10 August 2008 09:50 am, Victor Reyes wrote: > 1. Would a beginner question receives a beginner's answer? > 2. How are we going to understand/learn new techniques and creativity > which only the non-beginner posses? Please don't be arrogant and tell me to > learn it like you did! Although I know that this not your problem, some > people, like I, at times needs to see examples. > 3. When would a beginner like I be permitted into the big boys > (non-beginner) club? > 4. What's wrong with being a beginner? Without answering your specific questions, I (as a newbie, although hopefully I'm more than a newbie in some areas now), I would join both lists (the newbie and the more advanced list). Read both. Hopefully some experts will read the newbie list and provide expert answers there, but there is a lot of room for beginners to answer questions that they've already learned the answers to. Ask your questions on whatever list you guess is most appropriate. If you start by asking on the newbie list, and either don't get an answer or you think it's missing something, re-ask it on the advanced list. Randy Kramer Aside: I belong (or have belonged) to newbie and advanced lists on several subjects--the ones I can think of atm are Mandriva and AbiWord. I think it works reasonably well. Traffic on the advanced lists is considerably less "noisy" than that on the newbie lists, which is, iiuc, one of the goals. OTOH, newbies still have a place to ask their questions, including some that even they believe to be fairly simple. > > In the past I have learn interesting techniques from you, big boys, > non-beginners and I wish I could continue to count on that. I have received > answers from some of the Ruby book authors and from some of the Ruby > packages developers, also from just fun loving Ruby hackers, and YES from > beginners to. > > If a person considers that a question is too simple and s(he) does not wants > to waste time on it, skip it. If your arrogance does not let you see your > feet, well good for you. > But please let us beginners feel comfortable and let Ruby grow with our > stupid questions! > > Thanks > > Victor >