From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" Date: 2008-08-10T00:20:27+09:00 Subject: Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby. On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 23:01 +0900, Trans wrote: > I thought about that. My concern with creating a beginners list is > that beginners will be more likely to gravitate toward the most well > known list, ie. ruby-talk. I could possibly see a ruby-help list, but > that would take a much more concerted effort by the community to rev- > up and maintain, and I'm not sure it conveys the type of sectioning > that's really needed to improve list participation. > > Yes, having an advanced list is sort of elitist, that's the point. But > that doesn't make it defacto bad. A better name might help that > perception however, say ruby-tech. Well ... first of all, anybody is free to go to Google Groups and create and market any kind of list they want to, within certain terms of service, of course. So if, for example, someone feels that there needs to be a "ruby-beginners" or a "ruby-help" or a "ruby-professional", they can just go ahead and start it up and invite participants. Second, *this* list is essentially mirrored between the "ruby-talk" mailing list, the Usenet comp.lang.ruby newsgroup and a Google Group. If you split one, you more or less have to split all three of them. It doesn't seem to me to be worth the effort when anyone can do what I described above. So ... those of you who feel strongly about establishing new lists, go ahead and establish them, post the URLs here, and see who joins. :) I can pretty much guarantee that I won't join one, since I'm on half a dozen or so specialized Ruby lists, like ruby-core, rubinius-dev, ruby-benchmark-suite and the Seattle and Portland Ruby brigade lists. Chances of me missing an opportunity to learn or teach in this area are rather small, I think. ;) -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky ruby-perspectives.blogspot.com "A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems." -- Alfr��d R��nyi via Paul Erd��s