[#4834] Fwd: Re: Whats so different about a Hash? — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>
>>>>> "A" == Andrew Walrond <andrew@walrond.org> writes:
On Thursday 05 May 2005 13:48, ts wrote:
>>>>> "A" == Andrew Walrond <andrew@walrond.org> writes:
On Thursday 05 May 2005 13:57, ts wrote:
[#4844] Getting rid of Object#equal?()? — =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Florian_Gro=DF?= <florgro@...>
Moin.
[#4848] No way to change socket timeout on opened URI — noreply@...
Bugs item #1878, was opened at 2005-05-05 17:55
[#4855] Method hooks in singleton classes — Pit Capitain <pit@...>
Hello Ruby-maintainers,
[#4858] Build fails on OSX Tiger 10.4 — noreply@...
Bugs item #1883, was opened at 2005-05-06 14:55
Hi,
Hi,
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On 5/19/05, Shugo Maeda <shugo@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
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Hi,
[#4869] Infinite loop on YAML.dump (Re: ruby-list:40801) — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp>
Hello.
[#4874] - Need to reduce Ruby Sources to the Minimal — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
Hello all,
Ilias Lazaridis schrieb:
Pit Capitain wrote:
Ryan Davis wrote:
ES wrote:
On May 12, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Thursday 12 May 2005 22:09, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
Francois GORET wrote:
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nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
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nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
[#4881] Encoding Pragma — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...>
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[#4886] ruby 1.8.3 preview1 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>
Hi,
Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> [2005-05-12 17:49]:
>What about [ruby-core:4296]?
[#4911] Pointless argc check in Array#select — noreply@...
Patches item #1900, was opened at 2005-05-12 09:33
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>>>>> "D" == Daniel Berger <djberge@qwest.com> writes:
ts wrote:
>>>>> "D" == Daniel Berger <djberge@qwest.com> writes:
On 5/12/05, ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:
Austin Ziegler wrote:
[#4919] - Hierarchical/Modular Directory Structure — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
The source-code structure should be simplified, lowering barriers for
Hi,
Nakada, Nobuyoshi wrote:
Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
On 5/14/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
Austin Ziegler wrote:
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nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
[#4932] ruby-1.8.3 preview1 - failure: cygwin. — Hugh Sasse <hgs@...>
I've just tried to build the preview and got:
[#4992] Pathname#unlink fails on a symlink which points to a directory. — noreply@...
Bugs item #1917, was opened at 2005-05-14 21:33
In article <200505142133.j4ELXEaM011256@rubyforge.org>,
Hello.
In article <20050515153530.0D9F30E0.ocean@m2.ccsnet.ne.jp>,
[#5006] Suggestion for avoiding incivilities — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi all,
[#5010] - Function Argument Conventions — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
As a general rule, the first argument to a function should be the
[#5020] Problems with the "outer scope" operator — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...>
Hello,
[#5039] CGI::escapeHTML escapes the ampersand in an existing escape command — noreply@...
Bugs item #1930, was opened at 2005-05-19 11:45
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Thu, 19 May 2005 13:09:45 +0900, nobuyoshi nakada
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[#5040] Suggestion to add alias for underscore style method names to camel case named class methods in CGI — noreply@...
Bugs item #1931, was opened at 2005-05-19 11:46
On Thu, 19 May 2005 noreply@rubyforge.org wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 21:22:46 +0900, David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net>
[#5068] Re: [ ruby-Patches-1939 ] Pathname, totally revamped — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>
--- nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
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On 5/22/05, nobu.nokada@softhome.net <nobu.nokada@softhome.net>
Hi,
[#5070] Re: [ ruby-Patches-1939 ] Pathname, totally revamped — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>
--- daz <dooby@d10.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
[#5075] Re: [ ruby-Patches-1939 ] Pathname, totally revamped — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>
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Quoting Daniel.Berger@qwest.com, on Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:06:58PM +0900:
[#5107] Re: will callable objects be more general in Ruby 1.9? — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>
Re: Getting rid of Object#equal?()?
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: >> I think that we currently have too many equality methods with similar >> names: >> I think that equal?() is rarely used and that removing it completely >> would make sense -- after all a.id == b.id is not much longer than >> a.equal?(b). > > I would agree, except for backwards-compatibility issues. I think backwards-compatibility is not too much of a problem -- we don't need to remove this method immediately. Rather, there could be a warning period where using it emits a warning that it is now considered obsolete. >> Renaming it might also be an option -- I think Object#identical?() >> would be a good name. > > also Object#same? would be a better and shorter name, but I don't really > care because I'd rather write it a.id==b.id and then I rarely ever need > to even do that. I'm not sure about same?() -- it does have the same meaning, but I think it might be too close to "same value". I think identical?() is more explicit. (It has the "identity" bit right inside the method name.) I agree in that we might not even need a name for comparing object ids, however. >> I would also like to see eql?() renamed, but I'm not sure about the >> name and it also seems to be used much more which would make a change >> more troublesome. Perhaps hash_equal?() would be a better name. > > it would be troublesome to do that kind of thing because #eql? and #hash > are the "hashable" interface which gets redefined by user-defined code, > and then renaming is much trickier (aliases are pretty wrong in that > case). So I don't agree with this part of the proposal. Yup, that is pretty much my concerns as well. There's also a lot of cases where this is used and forcing that much effort on everybody just to clear up terminology a bit might not be worth it. But just thinking about a better name does not mean that we have to start using it. We could still switch over to it if there was a good opportunity for doing so.