From: Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>
Date: 2005-05-13T04:09:10+09:00
Subject: PLEASE Stop Ilias Now

I'm spawning a new thread for the benefit of those with killfiles.

On May 12, 2005, at 6:17 AM, Alexander Kellett wrote:
> On May 12, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
>
>> Feel free to open a new thread to discuss processing-models.
>> But please refrain from further off-topic messages in this thread.
>>
>
> if illias isn't blocked from this mailing list soon
> i'll be unsubscribing from this one also.
>
> this is just pathetic.

I'm in the same boat. Please, stop this now. If we don't stop this  
quickly, it will only get much much worse. Illias doesn't contribute,  
he is the destroyer of the signal:noise, which was previously very  
very good on ruby-core... He demands that things be done his way for  
the benefit of his understanding only. He has done this to ruby-talk,  
and many many groups before ruby. Despite protestations he is NOT  
here to help us, only himself.

He will demand that we explain and/or simplify every single line of  
the makefile (as you've seen on his line-by-line "analysis" of  
building miniruby. Any single line he doesn't understand, he'll ask  
US to explain instead of doing any research on his own. If we don't  
answer to his liking, he'll declare that we aren't helping and demand  
explanation further.

When he is done with the makefile, he will move to EVERY function of  
EVERY C file in core ruby. He will insist that every single thing he  
doesn't understand get explained for him (without doing any research  
on his own), and then he'll demand that it get simplified. When I say  
"EVERY function of EVERY C file in core ruby", I'm being as literal  
and precise as I can be in my prediction.

This list is NOT for that type of discussion, please, let's not make  
it that now. Please, stop this now. I really don't want to leave this  
list, in fact, I _need_ to be on this list.

----- Following is something Eric wrote up after doing research on  
Ilias:

check out this:

http://www.tfeb.org/lisp/mad-people.html

Especially:

Ilias is currently (17-Sep-2002) being almost entirely  ignored and  
is crying alone to himself, while trying to  join in various threads.  
With luck if this continues he  will get bored and wander off to  
annoy people in some  other newsgroup. He is one of the most  
malignant posters  to cll in recent history - between 27-Aug-2002  
and  24-Sep-2002 threads begin by him were about 1/4 of the  articles  
in cll.

-----

Go read those threads. Seriously. They are an exact reflection of  
what is being done to ruby.

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