From: Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
Date: 2005-05-13T00:27:15+09:00
Subject: Re: [THIN] - Need to reduce Ruby Sources to the Minimal

Hugh Sasse wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2005, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
>> nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What do you expect by "thin"?
>>
>> I will try.
>>
>> * the core ruby interpreter, with the minimal necessary libraries.
> 
> Do you mean core libraries, not standard libraries -- exclude things
> you must "require" to obtain?   

would be a good starting point - and a code-unit to isolate.

> That way you'd only get the builtin
> classes like Array, Hash, Regexp....  This seems a useful goal, that
> I have asked for in the past:
> 
> http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?BatteriesExcludedDistribution

ok

> Your use of 'necessary' doesn't specify 'for what'.

ok

to have a workable ruby interpreter, with the main (core) language 
constructs (which can esility be removed further, thus minimzing the 
core even more, without beiing a full ruby anymore).

This would open up new use-cases, especially for embedding.

>>>>> When building Ruby, one of the first things created is a "miniruby" 
[...] - (makefiles)

>> Which tool can I use to view/modify this file conveniently?
> 
> It is Makefile.sub, not a Makefile as such.  The complexity is due
[...]

I simply like to understand the subsystems of ruby out of the sources.

As I can see, the makefiles cannot be used for this.

>> Alternatively
>>
>> I would like to have a simple makefile, like:
>>
>> CC main.c
>> CC class.c
>> CC ...
>>
>> LINK ruby.exe main.obj, class.obj, ...
> 
> That isn't actually a makefile.  There is no means of avoiding
[...]

of course.

I like to extract the structure of the ruby sources.

to do so, I could write fully manually a simple makefile.

>> There is no structure in the source-code, where I could detect the 
>> subsystems.
> 
> Which source code files do you refer to with this remark?

I mean the whole contents of the folder "ruby-1.8.2".

the problem starts with a missing "src" folder, which would isolate the 
source-code-files from the other files in the root directory.

.

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