[ruby-talk:03514] Re: Python 3000 -> No, but there's 'R***'

>>>>> "Aleksi" == Aleksi  <Niemel<[e-mail]>> writes:

    Aleksi> Aahz:
    >> While the content of those posts wasn't particularly
    >> objectionable, the Subject sets the tone and you'd better
    >> expect that people will react.

    Aleksi> I appreciate a lot what Conrad has been doing but I have
    Aleksi> to say the subject Aahz pointed is very important too. I
    Aleksi> hope Ruby community wont get it's reputation for flaming,
    Aleksi> trashing or any electric warfare. It hasn't happen so far
    Aleksi> and I surely hope we make our best efforts to reduce risks
    Aleksi> for these unfortunate events in the future. I know Ruby is
    Aleksi> good enough to get supporters and users without any
    Aleksi> boasting or touting.

Hi Aleksi,

very nice article, indeed. I wholeheartly agree with you on all its
topics! Ruby is much better than Perl or Python, IMHO, and I am glad
I've met it. The only reason for me to use Perl sometimes is that Perl 
offers some library that does simplify my work enormous and that does
not exists at the time being for Ruby.

As I use these language mainly for work, time is important. But I am
sure this gap will be closed on day in future.

We had a time of slow-growing interest. We had a time of advertising
and got a NG (thanks Conrad's effort) to allow whomever to follow our
discussions. Now we should also take a time to let things settle
down. 

Ruby is best and it was growing in silence for ca. 7(?) years around. 
For me Ruby was also a quiet, truthful and humble servant for all my
tasks I had so far. Modesty combined with power!!!

So I very like your idea to do it more indirect than direct. Let us
spread some subtle small pointers to Ruby everywhere AND everywhen it
is appropiate! For example is somebody asks in Perl or Python what
kind of language would the right one for task XXX, we could simple
pointing to Ruby ... but not shouting. If someone follows our pointer
=> good, if not => still good!

Or like you have proposed in your article!

Let us act modestly like Ruby, not crying like Perl or stubborn like
Python (and I mean the languages; not necessarily theirs followers)!

    Aleksi> 	- Aleksi

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