[#3109] Is divmod dangerous? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

14 messages 2000/06/06

[#3149] Retrieving the hostname and port in net/http — Roland Jesse <jesse@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2000/06/07

[#3222] Ruby coding standard? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

16 messages 2000/06/09

[#3277] Re: BUG or something? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> |I am new to Ruby and this brings up a question I have had

17 messages 2000/06/12
[#3281] Re: BUG or something? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2000/06/12

Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@cinnober.com> writes:

[#3296] RE: about documentation — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> I want to contribute to the ruby project in my spare time.

15 messages 2000/06/12

[#3407] Waffling between Python and Ruby — "Warren Postma" <embed@...>

I was looking at the Ruby editor/IDE for windows and was disappointed with

19 messages 2000/06/14

[#3410] Exercice: Translate into Ruby :-) — Jilani Khaldi <jilanik@...>

Hi All,

17 messages 2000/06/14

[#3415] Re: Waffling between Python and Ruby — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

>Static typing..., hmm,...

11 messages 2000/06/14

[#3453] Re: Static Typing( Was: Waffling between Python and Ruby) — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

32 messages 2000/06/16

[#3516] Deep copy? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>

Given that I cannot overload =, how should I go about ensuring a deep

20 messages 2000/06/19

[#3694] Why it's quiet — hal9000@...

We are all busy learning the new language

26 messages 2000/06/29
[#3703] Re: Why it's quiet — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2000/06/30

Hi,

[#3705] Re: Why it's quiet — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2000/06/30

Hi,

[ruby-talk:03296] RE: about documentation

From: Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Date: 2000-06-12 14:25:19 UTC
List: ruby-talk #3296
> I want to contribute to the ruby project in my spare time.
> Right now one of the biggest needs appears to be English
> documentation.  

Me too x 2.

> limitation was from the fact that perl documentation was handled by
> Tom Christenson and he felt that the Perl books where a better source
> for a reference manual.

And here's what I would like to say to you:

1) let's not rush
2) let's look what Dave&Andy have to offer to us
3) let's try to do this a little bit coordinatedly.

With first I mean that it's easy to do something what have no use at all. So
let's analyze the situation first.

The second means that we probably don't have any need to do library
reference, if everything goes right. We might better to do it anyway, so
let's wait for few months, maybe to the autumn, and let's make decisions
then.

And with the third one I hope we're not duplicating the work load, we'll
have one set of beautiful and comprehensive documentation done in "the right
way" as much as possible.

I, for one, have some doubts the rdtool is the way to go. I might make an
overkill suggestion, but I feel we should be heading into XML-world and
maybe make a converter to rd-notation. This said, I've not looked rdtool
carefully, so I might be way off here.

I've told I'm available to work volunteering. In
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/2759 matz
volunteered to set up the infrastructure for it (maybe he has done that
already :).

So based on your enthusiasm, I guess you could act as a head of the Ruby
documentation project. I think these things should be talked before somebody
really does the job. That way, I hope, we could navigate in the right
direction to get good, free on-line (and print ready:) documentation.
There's always room for the target of Christiansen's opinion: real books!

Maybe we could start by discussing the need, the depth and the priority for
topics to be documented. Simultaneously we could talk needed 

infrastructure:
- freely editable XML, patches going though the documentation maintainer,
ending up the CVS-tree

the technology:
- XML (maybe look to TEI-might help)
- Ruby scripts handling XML2RDtool, XML2HTML (maybe using internal/external
XSLT), XML2Latex, XML2PDF (maybe XSL-FO?)

collaboration tools:
- CVS, web page, mailing list, Wiki, newsgroups 
- enabling coordinated assignments and reassignments :)

Do not let this look overkill. These are just random ideas.

	- Aleksi

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