[#3109] Is divmod dangerous? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

14 messages 2000/06/06

[#3149] Retrieving the hostname and port in net/http — Roland Jesse <jesse@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2000/06/07

[#3222] Ruby coding standard? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

16 messages 2000/06/09

[#3277] Re: BUG or something? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> |I am new to Ruby and this brings up a question I have had

17 messages 2000/06/12
[#3281] Re: BUG or something? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2000/06/12

Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@cinnober.com> writes:

[#3296] RE: about documentation — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> I want to contribute to the ruby project in my spare time.

15 messages 2000/06/12

[#3407] Waffling between Python and Ruby — "Warren Postma" <embed@...>

I was looking at the Ruby editor/IDE for windows and was disappointed with

19 messages 2000/06/14

[#3410] Exercice: Translate into Ruby :-) — Jilani Khaldi <jilanik@...>

Hi All,

17 messages 2000/06/14

[#3415] Re: Waffling between Python and Ruby — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

>Static typing..., hmm,...

11 messages 2000/06/14

[#3453] Re: Static Typing( Was: Waffling between Python and Ruby) — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

32 messages 2000/06/16

[#3516] Deep copy? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>

Given that I cannot overload =, how should I go about ensuring a deep

20 messages 2000/06/19

[#3694] Why it's quiet — hal9000@...

We are all busy learning the new language

26 messages 2000/06/29
[#3703] Re: Why it's quiet — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2000/06/30

Hi,

[#3705] Re: Why it's quiet — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2000/06/30

Hi,

[ruby-talk:03323] Re: BUG or something? Dealing with $; $/ $, and so on.

From: Conrad Schneiker <schneik@...>
Date: 2000-06-12 17:39:53 UTC
List: ruby-talk #3323
Hi,

Dave Thomas wrote:

> Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
>
> > On 12 Jun 2000, Dave Thomas wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > How about making any assignment to one of these globals-with-a-
> > > side-effect generate a warning if -w was in effect. That way you'd at
> > > least know that it was happening.
> >
> > Would it be possible to have a test for "when calling this code, it
> > is possible to exit leaving a global variable changed"?.  There are
> > only so many wasy to leave a method, module... without completely
> > crashing.
>
> Well, you _could_ implement Perl's 'local' facility for Ruby globals:
>
> <snip>
>
> For example:
>
>      $; = "hello"
>      $/ = "goodbye"
>      $, = ", "
>
>      local(:$;, :$/, :$,) {
>        $; = 'hi';
>        $/ = nil
>        $, = " - "
>        print $;, $/, "\n"     #=> hi - nil -
>      }
>
>      print $;, $/, "\n"       #=> hello, goodbye,
>
> This is pretty tacky code - the 'local' method should check that it is
> only passed true globals, and should reject $_ and $!. That's left as
> an exercise to the reader (as we say) ;-)

Well, I like the original thought--but not the idea of implementing
it--because it "breaks the meaning/uniformity" of the global variable naming
convention, and it adds too much Perl-like explicit overhead.

Seems to me that an explicitly local convention for automatically localized
variants would be desirable (which sprang into being upon reference, an took
the corresponding global values as defaults if not set). Maybe something like
"$$;", "$$/", "$$," and so on would be the most natural and easiest to
remember.

--
Conrad Schneiker
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