[#3109] Is divmod dangerous? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

14 messages 2000/06/06

[#3149] Retrieving the hostname and port in net/http — Roland Jesse <jesse@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2000/06/07

[#3222] Ruby coding standard? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

16 messages 2000/06/09

[#3277] Re: BUG or something? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> |I am new to Ruby and this brings up a question I have had

17 messages 2000/06/12
[#3281] Re: BUG or something? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2000/06/12

Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@cinnober.com> writes:

[#3296] RE: about documentation — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> I want to contribute to the ruby project in my spare time.

15 messages 2000/06/12

[#3407] Waffling between Python and Ruby — "Warren Postma" <embed@...>

I was looking at the Ruby editor/IDE for windows and was disappointed with

19 messages 2000/06/14

[#3410] Exercice: Translate into Ruby :-) — Jilani Khaldi <jilanik@...>

Hi All,

17 messages 2000/06/14

[#3415] Re: Waffling between Python and Ruby — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

>Static typing..., hmm,...

11 messages 2000/06/14

[#3453] Re: Static Typing( Was: Waffling between Python and Ruby) — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

32 messages 2000/06/16

[#3516] Deep copy? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>

Given that I cannot overload =, how should I go about ensuring a deep

20 messages 2000/06/19

[#3694] Why it's quiet — hal9000@...

We are all busy learning the new language

26 messages 2000/06/29
[#3703] Re: Why it's quiet — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2000/06/30

Hi,

[#3705] Re: Why it's quiet — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2000/06/30

Hi,

[ruby-talk:03509] Re: Static Typing

From: Andrew Hunt <andy@...>
Date: 2000-06-19 02:29:41 UTC
List: ruby-talk #3509
    >>    >>"Thaddeus L. Olczyk" wrote:
    >>    >>> Considering the heaps of praise Eiffel has recieved
    >>    >>> from the OO community I would suspect that most feel it has benefit.
    >>
    >>I personally like Eiffel.  I think it has great benefits.  But
    >>while everyone praises it, no one uses it.  Why is that?  Is
    >>it more academically correct and not as convenient as it could be?
    >>
    >Come on. You know. Everyone knows.
    >The reason that I've never given Eiffel more a perfunctory glance,
    >is the same reason that few people use it.  Bertrand Meyer is a 
    >!@#$(*& asshole. He sorounds himself with a bucn of sycophants
    >who are assholes too. A lot of people just get disgusted and  go away.

I don't think personal attacks are appropriate, nor do I 
think that the language creator's personality can be entirely
to blame for the acceptance (or lack therof) of a language.

Your description could easily apply to Bill Gates as well, yet
that doesn't seem to have affected his market share in the least.

    >Yep. I've seen that too. Look at the programmers that did it, and they
    >generally didn't know C++, though they thought they did.

I've met quite a few folks like this.  C++ is a complex language,
and many novices do not appreciate the hairy mess that they 
inadvertantly create. 

    >Yeah, after two months
    >you barely learn the first Chapter of the manual. No wonder they went
    >broke.

By the same token, if you had a language you *could* learn in
two months, wouldn't these guys have been better off?

/\ndy

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