[#16113] Strange idea... exporting from a scope — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
Hello...
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Dave Thomas wrote:
Hi,
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
Hi,
[#16140] (?i:) in regexp — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "Y" == Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@zetabits.com> writes:
[#16144] Re: Strange idea... exporting from a scope — hfulton@...
> |> I'm too lazy to type in "exprt" and variable name. so I'm
Hi,
[#16155] Re: Block arguments vs method arguments — hfulton@...
> | { | local, :up | }
[#16172] The Block Problem -A suggestion — Chris Moline <ugly-daemon@...>
Hi, I was thinking about our discussion and came up with an idea that might
[#16229] Re: String#scan strange behavior — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "W" == Wayne Blair <wayne.blair@relian.com> writes:
[#16245] line numbers in multiline regular expressions. — jonas <jonas.bulow@...>
Hi,
[#16259] Timezone in Time::{local,gm} — Stoned Elipot <Stoned.Elipot@...>
Hello,
[#16271] Re: odd obj.send behaviour — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "P" == Patrik Sundberg <ps@radiac.mine.nu> writes:
[#16283] ruby and fox — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...>
Just curious if anyone else in ruby-talk is attempting to use the fox GUI. I
[#16311] Little bug in the manual — teespy <teespy@...>
I think there is a little error in ruby's guide
[#16317] Re: ruby regex — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "D" == David Thiel <dthiel@nexprise.com> writes:
[#16325] Tcl string map lookalike — Wilbert Berendsen <wbsoft@...4all.nl>
Hi,
[#16364] Re: Garbage Collection? — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>
Windows 2000 and linux (RedHat 6.2). I have run these tests on both OSs.
[#16380] Method objects fail equivalence — mirian@... (Mirian Crzig Lennox)
I was surprised to observe the following:
Hi,
[#16400] Symbolic Computation III — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...>
> ----- Original Message -----
>----- Original Message -----
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Wayne Blair wrote:
[#16415] Ruby - Objective C - GNUstep — Laurent Julliard <Laurent.Julliard@...>
So here is my story:
[#16433] Re: Inital Q's on Ruby grammar — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "R" == Robert Feldt <feldt@ce.chalmers.se> writes:
[#16462] Opinion sought: parsing non-regular languages — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
(This is a bit long...)
Robert Feldt <feldt@ce.chalmers.se> writes:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Dave Thomas wrote:
[#16489] Verify correct lexing of delimited strings — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi all,
[#16502] Playing with Ruby Syntax (was: Initial thoughts about Ruby From a Smalltalk Programmer) — jweirich@...
Michael> Hi Everyone, I have to say I'm utterly fascinated by Ruby
jweirich@one.net writes:
[#16503] walking the ruby_frame list — victor <victor@...>
Hi,
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 10:56:30PM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#16505] Smalltalk vs. Ruby — Steve Tuckner <SAT@...>
I have never used Smalltalk so I have no knowledge of its use on a day by
[#16528] why only nil and false are regarded as false? — Steven Haryanto <steven@...>
I would appreciate some explanation on why Ruby behaves like
[#16540] Trapping method defs — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi all,
[#16556] Method overloading - How? — Uwe Lammers <Uwe.Lammers@...>
Hi,
[#16565] Configuration file parsing — "Anders Johannsen" <anders@...>
I'm currently writing an application in Ruby, which needs a
[#16567] [TOY] reversed regexp — ts <decoux@...>
[#16583] Two (or more) dimensional arrays? — "Kirk Lowery" <klowery@...>
After reading my way through various documentation, I didn't find any
[#16591] RCR: Enumerable: every() and none() — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
I've been off the list for a while but I'm dipping back in to suggest:
[#16599] RE: RCR: Enumerable: every() and none() — "Benjamin J. Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
>===== Original Message From Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> =====
[#16604] Creating arrays — Chris Moline <ugly-daemon@...>
Hi, I was wondering why do we have to do this
[#16634] mascot — redwolf <arm3@...>
The Ruby Crowned Kinglet is perfect!!!
[#16640] Re: Commenting code — Alvaro Segura <asegura@...>
James Kanze wrote:
[#16646] Serial Communications — Wai-Sun Chia <waisun.chia@...>
Hello Rubyists,
[#16657] bag difference — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
Is there an elegant way to do a bag diffeence between 2 arrays, rather
[#16661] Problem running irb with Ruby 1.6.4 under FreeBSD 4.0 — Bob Alexander <balexander@...>
I've installed Ruby 1.6.4 on a FreeBSD 4.0 machine, and get the
Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
In article <993579597.067351.15583.nullmailer@ev.netlab.zetabits.com>,
mirian@cosmic.com (Mirian Crzig Lennox) wrote:
[#16662] installation option — Hung-Hsien Chang <hubert@...>
Hi!
[#16669] how to call super from singleton method? — viisi@... (Andi Riedl)
hi!
[#16681] RE: embedding C++ — Wyss Clemens <WYS@...>
Have you tried using SWIG?
[#16686] opening db files made by apache dbmmanage — Fritz Heinrichmeyer <fritz.heinrichmeyer@...>
[#16714] DBI 0.0.5 problem — "Krzysztof P. Jasiutowicz" <kpj@...>
Krzysztof P. Jasiutowicz wrote:
[#16715] File.flock blocks forever — Michael Witrant <mike@...>
Hello,
[#16723] setsockopt options — Joseph McDonald <joe@...>
Hi,
Hi,
[#16726] Simulating call-by-reference in Ruby — senderista@... (Tobin Baker)
I'm currently working on Ruby bindings for ORBit and thought that it
[#16737] socket bug — Joseph McDonald <joe@...>
[#16763] uniq and "equivalence" — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
Array.uniq seems to rely on deleting multiple references to the same object.
>>>>> "H" == Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, ts wrote:
>>>>> "H" == Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
[#16788] pretty printing with enscript? — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...>
By chance, has anyone done a pretty printing file for ruby in enscript?
[#16792] wrapping structures — Martin Chase <stillflame@...>
hey ruby hackers,
[#16799] Problems compiling FOX for Ruby (FXRuby) on NetBSD — Michael Neumann <neumann@...>
Hi,
[#16801] rb_define_class() vs Class.new() — Kero van Gelder <kero@...4050.upc-d.chello.nl>
Hi,
>>>>> "K" == Kero van Gelder <kero@d4050.upc-d.chello.nl> writes:
> K> From C, rb_define_class() defines a named class, however, on the Ruby
>>>>> "K" == Kero van Gelder <kero@d4050.upc-d.chello.nl> writes:
> >>>>> "K" == Kero van Gelder <kero@d4050.upc-d.chello.nl> writes:
>>>>> "K" == Kero van Gelder <kero@d4050.upc-d.chello.nl> writes:
> irb> B = a
>>>>> "K" == Kero van Gelder <kero@d4050.upc-d.chello.nl> writes:
[#16810] [BUG?] Kernel::load wrap parameter — Patrik Sundberg <ps@...>
(CC any replies to me please - not subscribed and have crappy newsserver)
[#16841] RE: national characters is strings — "Aleksei Guzev" <aleksei.guzev@...>
Next week I'll try to rebuild Ruby with Unicode strings. But it would be
Hi,
That's good enough. But I'm afraid this could ( not would ) cause string
Hi,
I'll help as soon as You call. I like C++ much more than Assembler :)))
Hi,
I've taken a look at m17n.
[#16861] Re: Problems compiling FOX for Ruby (FXRuby) on NetBSD — "Lyle Johnson" <ljohnson@...>
> I didn't get FXRuby (Ruby interface for FOX GUI Toolkit) available from
[#16868] Something strange with Ruby's inheritance mechanism — Eric Jacoboni <jaco@...>
As Ruby beginner, i try some "canonical" OO scripts. Doing so, I've
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Aleksei Guzev wrote:
[#16869] Something strange with Ruby's inheritance mechanism — Eric Jacoboni <jaco@...>
As Ruby beginner, i try some "canonical" OO scripts. Doing so, I've
[#16881] — "Aleksei Guzev" <aleksei.guzev@...>
Hi,
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> writes:
Hi,
[#16885] Re: Something strange with Ruby's inheritance mechanism — Eric Jacoboni <jaco@...>
>>>>> "Mathieu" == Mathieu Bouchard <matju@sympatico.ca> writes:
[#16888] finalizers, destructors and whatnot — "David Leal" <david@...>
Hi all,
[#16973] Extension building — Tony Smith <tony@...>
I'm just getting started with Ruby and my first comment is "at last!". I've
[#16976] Introspection and 'where's the source'? — Johann Hibschman <johann@...>
Hi,
[#16982] RCR for the String class — Joseph McDonald <joe@...>
[#16991] eruby (or equiv) for windows? — "Derek Hamilton" <derek@...>
I am new to ruby so forgive me if this question has already been answered previously. I was wondering if eruby or the equivalent of eruby will work with a windows server running IIS? I would really like to be able to use ruby in that type of setting if possible!
[#17002] FOX subclassing FXTextField and messages — Ralf Canis <rc@...>
Hello,
[#17004] the evolution of Ruby itself — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>
Hi all;
Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
[#17008] Re: Poll results — Srecko.Howard@... (Srecko Howard)
Hi all
[#17020] Re: RCR for the String class — Steve Tuckner <SAT@...>
> While I'm complaining, I prefer Java's IO class hierarchy to Ruby's, too.
[#17027] sigprocmask — Joseph McDonald <joe@...>
[#17037] keeping an Exception object alive — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hello --
Hi,
Hello --
Hi,
Hello --
Hi,
Hello --
>>>>> "D" == David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
Hello --
>>>>> "D" == David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, ts wrote:
[#17059] "cvs commit" from within ruby — Clemens Wyss <wys@...>
I am trying to commit a file from within a ruby script (automation
[#17069] Is the ruby GC compacting ? — Lothar Scholz <llothar@...>
Or can i safely assume that a reference to a Ruby object is always the
[#17080] (cvs?) configure / make problems — Kero van Gelder <kero@...4050.upc-d.chello.nl>
Hi!
> > fails
[#17091] ensure block not being executed — Joseph McDonald <joe@...>
I'm afraid You stop not the script but You stop the interpreter with ^C.
"Aleksei Guzev" <aleksei.guzev@bigfoot.com> writes:
Then what is MessageQueue? (I haven't foud it at my Ruby sources )
[#17102] Ruby on a PDA — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>
Hi all;
[#17110] Re: Ruby on a PDA — Kent Dahl <kentda@...>
Tobias Reif wrote:
[ruby-talk:16340] Lisp vs. Perl Round 3: Operator Associativity and Manipulation
Thought the list might find this of interest.
Ken
---------------------- Forwarded by Ken LaCrosse/FOL/CDI/CHI/US on 06/08/2001
12:12 PM ---------------------------
Terrence Monroe Brannon <terrence.brannon@oracle.com> on 06/08/2001 10:20:35 AM
To: perl-ai@perl.org
cc: (bcc: Ken LaCrosse/FOL/CDI/CHI/US)
Subject: Lisp vs. Perl Round 3: Operator Associativity and Manipulation
TITLE
Lisp vs Perl Round One: Operator Associativity and Manipulation
BACKGROUND
In the process of converting a general pattern matcher (regular
expressions are pattern matchers limited to processing strings)
discussed in Peter Norvig's "Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence:
Case
Studies in Common Lisp", I ran into a doosy. Something was a snap to
do
in Lisp, but far from trivial in Perl. First the lisp code:
(defun match-if (pattern input bindings)
"Test an arbitrary expression involving variables. The pattern
looks
like ((?if lisp-code) . rest)."
(and (progv (mapcar #'car bindings)
(mapcar #'cdr bindings)
(eval (second (first pattern))))
(pat-match (rest pattern) input bindings)))
What this code is doing is taking some lisp code and evaluating it
within a certain context. What is a context? A context is a set of
variable bindings. What the mapcar statement above is doing is
setting
up a set of variable bindings so that when the lisp-code is
evaluated,
it is evaluated in the context of those bindings. Then what happens
is
the eval evauluates the lisp code with the variable bindings from
the
context as a frame of reference.
The difficulty in converting this to Perl lies in the fact that
operators are not first class. Let's see an example of this lisp
pattern-matcher in action:
>> (pat-match '(?x ?op ?y is ?z (?if (eql (?op ?x ?y) ?z)))
'(3 + 4 is 7))
>> ((?z . y) (?y . 4) (?x . 3))
What happened is that ?x got bound to 3, ?op got bound to + and ?z
got
bound to 7 and then the pattern matcher called the if-block based on
the
context formed by the earlier matches in the pattern.
Note how easily Lisp took an operator and stored it in a variable
just
like anything else in Lisp. Second (though not the focus of this
paper),
note how easy it was for the if block to receive and use a context.
In
Perl, operators and contexts are not truly first class, meaning you
can't pass them around and you can't assign them to variables...
easily.
They are in fact available to the Perl parser and a complicated set
of
parsing modules, but such Herculean efforts appear ridiculous
compared
to the expressive ease shown above.
In order for you to see firsthand what I am talking about with
respect
to Perl, let's take a stab at writing that powerful little Lisp
snippet
in Perl. First what would our pattern look like:
$pattern = [qw(X OP Y is Z),
'IF',
sub {$_[0]->{X} $_[0]->{OP} $_[0]->{Y} ==
$_[0]->{Z}} ];
$input = [ 3 '+' 4 is 7 ] ;
And here is our call to get the ball rolling:
pat_match ($pattern, $input, $bindings) ;
## And our desired output:
{ X => 3, Y => 4, Z => 7, OP => '+' }
sub match_if { my ($pattern, $input,$bindings) = @_ ;
$pattern->($bindings) ;
}
The above subroutine would work well, but it has a problem. There is
no
way to assign the '+' to $_->{OP} ; Also, the actual if subroutine
reference must pander to Perl's complex associativity rules. In both
respects, Lisp is easier. As stated earlier playing with Lisp
operators
is a snap:
(setq op '+)
(funcall op 2 2)
and associativity is a snap: just follow the parentheses.
The only way to handle a problem like this in Perl is to resort to
source filtering or parsing. And then you must make sure that your
minilanguage emulates the associativity semantics of Perl as well as
Perl in all respects...