[#91151] Python 25 times as popular as Ruby !? — llothar@... (Lothar Scholz)

Hey,

112 messages 2004/02/01
[#91154] Re: Python 25 times as popular as Ruby !? — Dan Doel <djd15@...> 2004/02/01

Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#91197] ruby way to enumerate users — "Robert K." <anon@...>

Hi,

29 messages 2004/02/01
[#91200] Re: ruby way to enumerate users — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2004/02/01

[#91210] Re: ruby way to enumerate users — "Robert K." <anon@...> 2004/02/01

>

[#91213] GUI toolkit — Robert <bobx@...>

Has the community decided on a "standard" Ruby GUI toolkit? I know the

21 messages 2004/02/01

[#91225] Rubyx (linux distro created using ruby) - Bootstrap volunteers required — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

Rubyx is almost ready to go public :)

11 messages 2004/02/01
[#91229] Re: Rubyx (linux distro created using ruby) - Bootstrap volunteers required — "Zach Dennis" <zdennis@...> 2004/02/01

I'm here to be used and abused, ever since the post on ./ I've put aside a

[#91251] Method Reflection — Benedikt Huber <benjovi@...>

I'm quite new to ruby and was amazed by the powerful reflection

12 messages 2004/02/02

[#91269] test::unit caller stack feature request — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

A typical call stack of mine look like the following.

18 messages 2004/02/02

[#91274] Silly question — Brad <BCoish@...>

All:

27 messages 2004/02/02

[#91286] code that has been reached — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

Does there exists a tool for Ruby which records which parts

28 messages 2004/02/02

[#91307] Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

I'm trying to decide which Ruby web application framework to use (if

64 messages 2004/02/02
[#91312] Re: Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — Kirk Haines <khaines@...> 2004/02/02

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Gavin Kistner wrote:

[#91317] Re: Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — Chris Morris <chrismo@...> 2004/02/02

Kirk Haines wrote:

[#91322] Re: Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — Kirk Haines <khaines@...> 2004/02/02

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Chris Morris wrote:

[#91411] Re: Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — gm@... (George Moschovitis) 2004/02/03

paul vudmaska <paul@vudmaska.com> wrote in message news:<401ECA9F.4070903@vudmaska.com>...

[#91310] OpenGL — Martin larsson <morg@...>

Hello

12 messages 2004/02/02

[#91315] role pattern lib for ruby — shasckaw <shasckaw@...>

Hello there,

46 messages 2004/02/02
[#91349] Re: role pattern lib for ruby — "Its Me" <itsme213@...> 2004/02/02

See Ruby Object Teams http://sourceforge.net/projects/robjectteam/

[#91358] Re: role pattern lib for ruby — shasckaw <shasckaw@...> 2004/02/03

Thansk for the link, it looks interesting but it is perhaps too complex

[#91542] Re: role pattern lib for ruby — shasckaw <shasckaw@...> 2004/02/04

shasckaw wrote:

[#91543] what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ruby) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2004/02/04

Is there a description of it somewhere?

[#91570] Re: what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ruby) — Pit Capitain <pit@...> 2004/02/04

Sam Roberts wrote about Object Teams:

[#91571] Re: what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ruby) — Pit Capitain <pit@...> 2004/02/04

Pit Capitain wrote:

[#91573] Re: what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ru by) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2004/02/04

Well, that was some good links, but they're all pretty hand-wavy about

[#91593] Re: what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ru by) — "T. Onoma" <transami@...> 2004/02/05

I think I can give a reasonable overall picture of AOP.

[#91323] Questions about stdout/stderr combining (for Windows & Linux) — Patrick Bennett <patrick.bennett@...>

I'm working on a build tool, and I need to execute various

12 messages 2004/02/02

[#91364] shell scripts in background (with &) - why would they stop? — Ruby Baby <ruby@...>

Shouldn't a Ruby script keep running if someone uses the "&" at the end of the command?

15 messages 2004/02/03

[#91407] RCR draft for enhanced "case..when..else..end" syntax — Guoliang Cao <gcao@...>

Hi,

41 messages 2004/02/03
[#91417] Re: RCR draft for enhanced "case..when..else..end" syntax — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2004/02/03

[#91548] Re: RCR draft for enhanced "case..when..else..end" syntax — Austin Ziegler <austin@...> 2004/02/04

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:45:07 +0900, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#91412] Image conversion ... — "Useko Netsumi" <usenets_remote_this@...>

Hi, is there any Ruby code snippets I can use to transform my photo to lower

29 messages 2004/02/03

[#91430] Arachno Ruby IDE — Yura Kloubakov <yura@...>

13 messages 2004/02/03

[#91435] ruby-serialport on Win32 — Stephan K舂per <Stephan.Kaemper@...>

Hi group,

19 messages 2004/02/03
[#91496] Re: ruby-serialport on Win32 — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2004/02/03

On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 02:15:04AM +0900, Stephan K舂per wrote:

[#91436] ARGV problems — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...>

i seem to be having a problem with ARGV.

20 messages 2004/02/03

[#91488] eistein's riddle — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

18 messages 2004/02/03

[#91565] New Computer, version, confusion — Ronald E Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

I just got a new computer and need to get stuff moved over to it.

14 messages 2004/02/04

[#91590] An assimilators guide to Python? — "Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT" <jupp@...>

Hi!

24 messages 2004/02/05

[#91626] HTML Parsing? — Martin Hart <martin@...>

20 messages 2004/02/05

[#91633] YAPV (Yet Another Pickaxe Version) — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

As promised in another thread, I am working on a new web version of the

29 messages 2004/02/05

[#91641] Fw: [XP] A Job Posting : Extreme Programmer needed. — Pit Capitain <pit@...>

I found this today on the extreme programming mailing list:

13 messages 2004/02/05

[#91652] impersonating ruby — "Robert K." <anon@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2004/02/05

[#91665] Is there any way to mark an object as "always in use" (specifically, in a C extension)? — Harry Ohlsen <harryo@...>

Some background ...

17 messages 2004/02/06

[#91680] mkfifo in Ruby 1.8? — "Basile Starynkevitch [news]" <basile-news@...>

Why is (the library call) mkfifo missing in Ruby 1.8? Is there a way

25 messages 2004/02/06
[#91735] Re: mkfifo in Ruby 1.8? — nobu.nokada@... 2004/02/07

Hi,

[#91737] pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — Bob Gustafson <bobgus@...> 2004/02/07

I just installed ruby-1.8.1 and found this problem.

[#91743] Re: pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2004/02/07

Hi,

[#91760] Re: pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2004/02/07

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#91775] Re: pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — nobu.nokada@... 2004/02/08

Hi,

[#91779] Re: pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2004/02/08

nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:

[#91682] Is 1.8.2 imminent? And detecting Rubyx version — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

I'm holding off an 'official' release of Rubyx (ruby based linux distro)

18 messages 2004/02/06

[#91710] Email parsing — Rove Monteux <rove.monteux@...>

Hi there.

16 messages 2004/02/06

[#91777] I卒m too dumb to program — Lester_t_linpord@... (Lester T. Linpord)

Because I危 a moron.

13 messages 2004/02/08

[#92507] Opinion: Ruby + OpenOffice.org — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hi guys,

17 messages 2004/02/09
[#92511] Re: Opinion: Ruby + OpenOffice.org — Bob Gustafson <bobgus@...> 2004/02/09

Check the latest issue of The Linux Journal. James Britt wrote an article

[#92631] ruby-dev summary: 22688-22826 — Masayoshi Takahashi <maki@...>

Hello all,

19 messages 2004/02/11

[#92649] (noob) cast string to array? — Koncept <user@...>

25 messages 2004/02/12

[#92692] ANN: Ruby Standard Library Documentation, v0.9.0 — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

Hi folks,

12 messages 2004/02/12

[#92771] return from yielded block — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

13 messages 2004/02/13

[#92986] A good way to do a book? — bobx@... (Bob)

http://www.sourcebeat.com/index.jsp

18 messages 2004/02/16

[#93039] Builtins RDoc tarball? — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

Is there a tar.gz that corresponds to

24 messages 2004/02/17
[#93042] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/02/17

Gavin Kistner wrote:

[#93048] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...> 2004/02/17

James Britt wrote:

[#93074] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/02/17

Gavin Kistner wrote:

[#93078] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/02/18

James Britt wrote:

[#93113] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...> 2004/02/18

James Britt wrote:

[#93118] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2004/02/18

[#93055] Why's (Poignant) Guide to Ruby, Chapters 1 to 3 — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

Greetings. Man, I'm giddy about this announcement. My blood is visibly

24 messages 2004/02/17

[#93104] how to raise warning? — Szymon Drejewicz <drejewic@...>

How to raise warning?

20 messages 2004/02/18

[#93162] speed benchmarks comparing Ruby to Py/Perl/PHP/etc? — Ruby Baby <ruby@...>

I know Ruby wasn't created to make a fast-running language.

12 messages 2004/02/19

[#93180] Ruby to Parrot compiler — Mark <msparshatt@...>

Is there anyone working on a compiler for compiling Ruby code to work on

28 messages 2004/02/19

[#93193] proposal: let kind_of take more arguments — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

It just hit me.. why not let kind_of? take more arguments?

21 messages 2004/02/20

[#93243] Instance variable capitalization — Jim Freeze <jim@...>

I have a question about how ruby-like is it to capitalize

12 messages 2004/02/20

[#93260] Introducing myself and my interest in ruby — Larry Felton Johnson <larryj@...>

This is just a note introducing myself to the list, and

75 messages 2004/02/20
[#93855] Re: Introducing myself and my interest in ruby — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com> 2004/02/27

il Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:32:13 +0900, Mark Hubbart <discord@mac.com> ha

[#93857] Re: Introducing myself and my interest in ruby — Mark Hubbart <discord@...> 2004/02/27

On Feb 27, 2004, at 11:19 AM, gabriele renzi wrote:

[#93858] Re: Introducing myself and my interest in ruby — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/02/27

Mark Hubbart wrote:

[#93874] Ruby Compiler [was Introducing myself and my interest in ruby] — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2004/02/28

Hal Fulton wrote:

[#93936] FreeRIDE 0.6.0-1 -- a Windows Update — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2004/02/29

Until now, the FreeRIDE debugger did not work under windows. We now have a

[#93298] Puzzling... — "Ruby Tuesday" <rubytuezdayz@...>

Hi, I have these 2 files, one work and the other does not.

41 messages 2004/02/20

[#93321] Calling JDBC from with Ruby — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I am building a web application for a client in Ruby. The application is working but now needs to access data using JDBC. My client is requiring both ODBC (for Windows) and JDBC (for Sun) access to data. I am looking for an example of how to use JDBC from within Ruby. I have looked at Jruby but would prefer to write my own code rather than rely on a third party add-on that is beta, especially one that has not been updated in a while. If I write the data access portion in Java that uses JDBC, can I then write a Java wrapper that would allow Ruby to call the Java methods? Are there any examples available showing how to call a Java method from within Ruby similar to the C interface to Ruby?

21 messages 2004/02/21

[#93374] Tycho - A PIM under development — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Hello, all.

17 messages 2004/02/21

[#93425] ANN: PLD RPMs of rake and ruby-dbi and a plea to packagers — Aredridel <aredridel@...>

I've just created packages (including .spec files to be used as

10 messages 2004/02/22

[#93459] Appropriate use of camelCase — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

Following the 'instance variable capitalization' thread, I'm convinced

46 messages 2004/02/23
[#93516] Re: Appropriate use of camelCase — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/02/24

Hi --

[#93523] Re: Appropriate use of camelCase — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2004/02/24

Chunky bacon!

[#93526] Re: Appropriate use of camelCase — Kirk Haines <khaines@...> 2004/02/24

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#93464] Need examples comparing Ruby to Python — David MacQuigg <dmq@...>

I'm putting together a web page comparing Ruby to Python, and I need

35 messages 2004/02/23

[#93485] Ruby-gtk ? — Martin Hart <martin@...>

16 messages 2004/02/23

[#93632] proposal: debug keyword — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

A debug keyword which enables debug-output for a specific method.

13 messages 2004/02/25

[#93654] Operators +, += and = in Ruby 2 — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...>

12 messages 2004/02/25

[#93732] Why don't $global and @instance variables need declaration? — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>

Sorry if the answer is obvious, but I can't find a satisfactory or more

10 messages 2004/02/26

[#93734] language contest ==> unit test framework from lisp to ruby — Piergiuliano Bossi <p_bossi_AGAINST_SPAM@...>

A few days ago I made a post (rubytalk:92963 ==> [2]) about the

13 messages 2004/02/26

[#93865] UnboundMethod#hash apparently broken in 1.8.1 — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...>

18 messages 2004/02/27

Re: RCR draft for enhanced "case..when..else..end" syntax

From: Gennady <gfb@...>
Date: 2004-02-03 16:00:25 UTC
List: ruby-talk #91421
Guoliang Cao wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm thinking of submitting a RCR. Here is the draft. Comments are welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cao

Do you know about this syntax currently available?

a = "aaa"
b = "bbb"
case
   when a == "aaa", b == "bbb"
     puts "Lowercase detected"
   when a == "AAA", b == "BBB"
     puts "Uppercase detected"
   else
     puts "Detection failed"
end

> 
> ====================================================
> 
> RCR title:  An enhanced case..when..else..end syntax
> 
> This RCR involves (check all that apply):
> ... a new feature                   x
> ... a syntax change                 x
> ... refactoring only            
> ... backwards incompatibility
> 
> Abstract....
>   This RCR proposes an enhanced case..when..else..end syntax.
>   
> Problem....
>   It's a very common task to group code based on a combination of values of
>   multiple variables. However, the current Ruby syntax only allows one
>   expression/variable being used in "case" clause. People have to use
>   if..else..end which requires more typing and is less intuitive.
>   
>   For example, suppose I'm generating a image, the color of each point is
>   defined based on its x and y coordinates.
> 
>        0 ... 50...100...200
>      0 +----------------+
>        |      white     |
>     50 |----------------|
>        |     |  grey    |
>    100 |blue +----------|
>        |     |  black   |
>    150 |----------------|
>        |      white     |
>    200 +----------------+
> 
> 
>   Use if..else..end:
> 
>   if 0..50 === x || 150..200 === x
>     color = white
>   elsif 0..50 === y
>     color = blue
>   elsif 50..100 === x and 50..200 === y
>     color = grey
>   else
>     color = black
>   end
> 
>   Use new case..when..else..end:
>    
>   case x : y
>     when 0..50, 150..200             # x in 0..50 or 150..200
>       color = white
>     when _ : 0..50                   # y in 0..50
>       color = blue
>     when 50..100 : 50..200           # x in 50..100 and y in 50..200
>       color = grey
>     else                             # otherwise
>       color = black
>   end
> 
>   Note: If the color is only dependent on x, we can use the current "case"
>   syntax. However if it's dependent on more than one variable, "case" is
>   incapable of handling it.
> 
> Proposal....
>   The enhanced syntax looks like below:
> 
>   case expr1 : expr2
>     when expr3 : _ : expr4
>       do_something
>     when expr5
>       do_different_thing
>     else
>       do_default_thing
>   end
> 
>   1. "case" takes 0 or any number of expressions separated by ":";
>   
>   If there's no expression, each clause separated by ":" in "when" is
>   evaluated to true or false and ":" is treated the same way as "and".
> 
>   2. "when" takes 1 or more clauses separated by ":"; each clause by itself
>   can be separated by "," (this is supported in current syntax).
>   
>   If there are less clauses than the number of "case" expressions, the
>   rest of "case" expressions are not evaluated.
> 
>   If there are more clauses than the number of "case" expressions, the
>   rest of "when" clauses are evaluated to true or false. ":" is treated
>   the same way as "and"
> 
>   3. "else" remains the same.
> 
>   4. "_" means skipping evaluation of the corresponding "case" expression.
> 
> 
> Analysis....
>   What benefits do we get?
>   1. It's a more general form, which means it can be used much wider than
>   what "case..when" is used for today;
>   2. less typing; there's no need to type x, y, === in the when clause;
>   3. this syntax change is backward compatible with Ruby 1.x
>   
> Implementation....
>   Because this request proposes syntax enhancement, it can't be achieved
>   without changing Ruby interpreter.
>   
>   The code below demonstrated the idea by extending Object class and
>   utilizing thread-local variables. It uses "ccase..cwhen..celse..end" to
>   simulate the proposed syntax. It uses "," to separate ccase/cwhen clauses
>   which are just arguments. It uses "true" instead of "_" to indicate
>   skipping evaluation.
>   
> 
>   Source:
> 
> #!/usr/bin/ruby
> #
> # To utilize Ruby's existing functionality to demonstrate the idea, I'm doing
> # this:
> # add instance methods "ccase", "cwhen", "celse" to class Object which is the
> # top one in the hierarchy so all classes inherit them.
> #
> # Its usage is like this:
> #   ccase a, b do
> #     cwhen [1,2], 1..3 do
> #       ...
> #     end
> #     cwhen 3, true do
> #       ...
> #     end
> #     celse do
> #       ...
> #     end
> #   end
> #
> # Problems so far:
> # 1. how to let "cwhen" method body to access "ccase" arguments and
> #    intermediate objects;
> #    Solution: use thread-local variable
> #
> # 2. how to make it work in multi-threaded program;
> #    Solution: use thread-local variable
> #
> # 3. "do...end" or "{...}" is needed to pass block to ccase/cwhen/celse.
> #    Solution: ???
> #
> # ccase = "customized case"
> # cwhen = "customized when"
> # celse = "customized else"
> #
> 
> class Object
> 
> # customized case
> def ccase arg0, *args
>   begin
>     args.unshift arg0
>     Thread.current["in_ccase"] = true
>     Thread.current["ccase_args"] = args
>     Thread.current["hit_cwhen"] = nil
>     if block_given?
>       yield
>     end
>   ensure
>     Thread.current["in_ccase"] = nil
>     Thread.current["ccase_args"] = nil
>     Thread.current["hit_cwhen"] = nil
>   end
> end
> 
> # customized when
> def cwhen arg0, *args
>   # skip if already matched
>   return if Thread.current["hit_cwhen"]
> 
>   args.unshift arg0
>   hit = true   # hit or not?
>   ccase_args = Thread.current["ccase_args"]
>   
>   if ccase_args and ccase_args.length > 0
>     ccase_args.each_index do |idx|
>       ccase_arg = ccase_args[idx]
>       cwhen_arg = args[idx]
> 
>       # cwhen_arg is not present, hit = true
>       # cwhen_arg is true and ccase_arg is not false, hit = true
>       # ccase_arg is not present, hit = if cwhen_arg evaluates to true
>       # both ccase_arg and cwhen_arg are present, hit = if cwhen_arg === ccase_arg
>       if (not cwhen_arg) or (not ccase_arg and cwhen_arg) or (cwhen_arg == true and not ccase_arg == false) or (cwhen_arg === ccase_arg)
>         # hit = true
>       elsif cwhen_arg.is_a? Array
>         hit = false
>         cwhen_arg.each do |arg|
>           if arg === ccase_arg
>             hit = true
>             break
>           end
>         end
>       else
>         hit = false
>       end
>       s = if cwhen_arg.nil? then "nil" else cwhen_arg.to_s end
>       s1 = if ccase_arg.nil? then "nil" else ccase_arg.to_s end
>       print "#{s} === #{s1} : #{hit.to_s}\n"
> 
>       break if not hit
>     end
>   else
>     args.each {|arg| hit &= arg}
>   end
> 
>   return if not hit
>   Thread.current["hit_cwhen"] = true
> 
>   if block_given?
>     yield
>   end
> end
> 
> # customized else to be combined with ccase/cwhen
> def celse
>   return if Thread.current["hit_cwhen"]
>   if block_given?
>     yield
>   end
> end
> 
> end
> 
> if __FILE__ == $0
>   def test a,b,c
>     ccase a,b,c do
>       cwhen [1, 3, 6], 1..2 do
>         # if a is in [1,3,6]  and  b === 1..2
>         print "hit 1\n"
>       end
>       cwhen 4, 3, 1 do
>         # if a === 4  and b === 4 and c === 1
>         print "hit 2\n"
>       end
>       cwhen 5, true, 7 do
>         # if a === 5  and  c === 7
>         print "hit 3\n"
>       end
>       celse do
>         # otherwise
>         print "no hit\n"
>       end
>     end
>   end
> 
>   test 1,2,3  # hit 1
>   test 4,3,0  # no hit
>   test 4,3,1  # hit 2
>   test 5,6,7  # hit 3
> 
> end  
> 
> 


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