From: paul vudmaska <paul@...>
Date: 2004-02-03T04:43:47+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup

Gavin Kistner wrote:

> gabriele renzi wrote:
>
>> define application framework. Maybe amrita could fit in here?
>
>
> Damn...I was afraid someone would call my bluff :)
>
> OK, in all honesty, I'm not sure precisely what the term means. (Or 
> perhaps it's (ab)used to mean multiple things.)
>
>
> My particular end goals for this upcoming project are:
>
> * A common set of features in the application core (e.g. calendar, 
> message board, media library, various hierarchies of pages).
>
> * CMS for various pages and pieces. (User accounts, permissions on who 
> can edit or create content, etc.)
>
> * For multiple clients buying into the package (all on the same host), 
> the ability to skin the output uniquely per client. (I don't much care 
> how this is accomplished; could be common XML + unique XSLT per client 
> (merged on the server, not client), or perhaps some sort of template 
> abstraction hierarchy.)
>
>
> I certainly don't expect anyone to have developed this dream 
> applications as a free 'framework'. What I'm looking for is:
>
> * Something that may speed development time. (Perhaps handles CMS 
> issues well, or makes common things like client+server side form 
> validation trivial.)
>
> * Something that adds strong features. (Perhaps a template/caching 
> system which improves performance by not hitting the database multiple 
> times every time a page is requested.)
>
> * Something that is flexible. (I don't want to be constrained by the 
> system as to what I can and cannot do with the end application.)
>
>
> It's rather vague, I know. This is partially due to secrecy concerns; 
> partially because we're not far enough along in the project to know 
> precisely what features we will be implementing; and partially because 
> I've never used a web application framework before, and so don't what 
> one offers.
>
>
> Clear? Confusing? Does that provide enough details to at least help 
> you help me? :)
>
> -- 
> (-, /\ \/ / /\/
>
You've pretty well described Zope.org. When you're done porting that to 
ruby, please send me a link to the code ;)