[#289458] Parsing JSON (#155) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

86 messages 2008/02/01
[#289675] Re: [QUIZ] Parsing JSON (#155) — steve <oksteev@...> 2008/02/03

Hey guys

[#289709] Re: [QUIZ] Parsing JSON (#155) — "Eric Mahurin" <eric.mahurin@...> 2008/02/04

On Feb 3, 2008 8:14 AM, steve <oksteev@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#289712] Re: [QUIZ] Parsing JSON (#155) — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2008/02/04

Eric Mahurin wrote:

[#289715] Re: [QUIZ] Parsing JSON (#155) — "Eric Mahurin" <eric.mahurin@...> 2008/02/04

On Feb 3, 2008 6:25 PM, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#289718] Re: [QUIZ] Parsing JSON (#155) — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2008/02/04

Eric Mahurin wrote:

[#289722] Re: [QUIZ] Parsing JSON (#155) — "Eric Mahurin" <eric.mahurin@...> 2008/02/04

On Feb 3, 2008 6:39 PM, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#289557] Comparing Active Record VS Datamapper...? — Softmind Technology <softmindtechnology@...>

Hello,

15 messages 2008/02/02
[#289633] Re: Comparing Active Record VS Datamapper...? — Ilan Berci <coder68@...> 2008/02/02

Softmind Technology wrote:

[#289636] Re: Comparing Active Record VS Datamapper...? — "s.ross" <cwdinfo@...> 2008/02/03

On 2/2/08 3:56 PM, "Ilan Berci" <coder68@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#289572] Extracting vowels and consonants using regular expression — Dondi <Donovan.Dillon@...>

I am trying to parse a string and extract all vowels and consonants

10 messages 2008/02/02

[#289579] FastRI 0.3.1: faster, Leopard compatibility, etc. — Mauricio Fernandez <mfp@...>

FastRI is an alternative to the ri documentation browser for Ruby.

21 messages 2008/02/02
[#289683] Re: [ANN] FastRI 0.3.1: faster, Leopard compatibility, etc. — botp <botpena@...> 2008/02/03

On Feb 3, 2008 1:07 AM, Mauricio Fernandez <mfp@acm.org> wrote:

[#290164] Re: [ANN] FastRI 0.3.1: faster, Leopard compatibility, etc. — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2008/02/06

On Feb 3, 2008, at 07:40 AM, botp wrote:

[#291478] Re: [ANN] FastRI 0.3.1: faster, Leopard compatibility, etc. — Mauricio Fernandez <mfp@...> 2008/02/18

On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 07:52:20AM +0900, Eric Hodel wrote:

[#291493] Re: [ANN] FastRI 0.3.1: faster, Leopard compatibility, etc. — James Gray <james@...> 2008/02/18

On Feb 18, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Mauricio Fernandez wrote:

[#289674] Ruby for game programming — t3chn0n3rd <darrin_allen@...>

Is anyone using Ruby for game programming?

17 messages 2008/02/03

[#289859] how to say # in ruby — Dan Ford <wade@...>

I'm accustomed to usenet as opposed to whatever this is.

22 messages 2008/02/04

[#289900] Introducing Waves - Web App Framework — Dan Yoder <dan@...>

I am pleased to announce the first beta release of Waves, an open-

32 messages 2008/02/05
[#290017] Re: [ANN] Introducing Waves - Web App Framework — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com> 2008/02/06

Dan Yoder wrote:

[#290001] Computer Science Problems — markonlinux@...

Hi all,

33 messages 2008/02/05

[#290020] Ruby type-safe? Ruby strongly/weakly typed? Ruby pitfalls? — "rule.rule.rule@..." <rule.rule.rule@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2008/02/06

[#290022] simple ruby proxy server? — Dt Town <dtown22@...>

I am trying to right at application which will simply record the headers

13 messages 2008/02/06

[#290167] Array Practice — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

As some of you may know from previous threads im trying to practice

27 messages 2008/02/06

[#290195] info on block arguments — Russell Me <russ@...>

I'm trying to pick up ruby and I'm impressed by all the cool stuff it

24 messages 2008/02/07

[#290208] idiom I've not seen before — Rob Saul <wyrd@...>

12 messages 2008/02/07

[#290244] Parsing JSON (#155) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

We saw a large variety of solutions for this week's problem. Many of them used

13 messages 2008/02/07

[#290245] using net::ssh shell to sudo to another user and execute commands — "wbsurfver@..." <wbsurfver@...>

11 messages 2008/02/07

[#290272] is lots of files with Threads faster? — Chris Richards <evilgeenius@...>

Im required to open 50+ files and parse the data in them. WOuld using

11 messages 2008/02/07

[#290296] BigDecimal.new('15.25') == 15.25, false ?? — Henry Jones <mathieu.houle@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2008/02/07

[#290328] trouble with FileUtils.rm() -- Invalid arguement error — an an <dtown22@...>

I have been screwing with this for the last hour, and I still cant get

12 messages 2008/02/08

[#290374] Internal Rate of Return (#156) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

47 messages 2008/02/08

[#290483] Beginner help - txt dungeon — Jonathon Hartoon <ezrickknight@...>

Hi. I have tried to learn other programming languages before and ruby

20 messages 2008/02/09

[#290716] non case sensitive searching — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

If i want to see if a list contains a particular word how would i go

15 messages 2008/02/11

[#290735] Rev/actor TCP monkey patching — fedzor <fedzor@...>

Short and sweet -

13 messages 2008/02/11

[#290825] How do C programmers do unit testing? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...>

This may seem like a silly question, but how do C programmers (assume

13 messages 2008/02/12

[#290931] Robert's Ruby Riddle: Local or Method — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...>

Hi list I was just thinking it might fun to present some of Ruby's

10 messages 2008/02/13

[#290982] ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...>

I recently upgraded to ruby 1.8.6 on mac os x 10.4.7. I had ruby tk

47 messages 2008/02/13
[#290994] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/02/13

On 2008-02-13, 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#291001] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/14

Jeremy Henty wrote:

[#291006] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2008/02/14

From: 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com>

[#291014] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/14

Hidetoshi NAGAI wrote:

[#291447] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2008/02/18

From: 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com>

[#291459] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/18

Hidetoshi NAGAI wrote:

[#291519] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Morton Goldberg <m_goldberg@...> 2008/02/18

On Feb 18, 2008, at 2:52 AM, 7stud -- wrote:

[#291529] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/18

Morton Goldberg wrote:

[#291556] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Morton Goldberg <m_goldberg@...> 2008/02/19

On Feb 18, 2008, at 3:05 PM, 7stud -- wrote:

[#291567] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/19

Morton Goldberg wrote:

[#291601] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Morton Goldberg <m_goldberg@...> 2008/02/19

On Feb 18, 2008, at 10:28 PM, 7stud -- wrote:

[#291603] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/19

Morton Goldberg wrote:

[#291621] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Morton Goldberg <m_goldberg@...> 2008/02/19

On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:05 AM, 7stud -- wrote:

[#291626] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/19

Morton Goldberg wrote:

[#291637] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2008/02/19

[#291707] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/20

John Joyce wrote:

[#291742] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Morton Goldberg <m_goldberg@...> 2008/02/20

On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:41 PM, 7stud -- wrote:

[#291747] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/20

Morton Goldberg wrote:

[#291819] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...> 2008/02/20

On Feb 20, 2008 8:59 AM, 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#291846] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2008/02/20

[#291967] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/21

John Joyce wrote:

[#292774] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Tim Ferrell <s0nspark@...> 2008/02/27

7stud -- wrote:

[#292964] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/29

Tim Ferrell wrote:

[#292971] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Tim Ferrell <s0nspark@...> 2008/02/29

7stud -- wrote:

[#292992] Re: ruby tk -- how do you get it working? — Tim Ferrell <s0nspark@...> 2008/02/29

Tim Ferrell wrote:

[#290985] my noob "numbering lines" programe. How to improve? — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Give us hints on how to improve this program. If you want to show your

11 messages 2008/02/13

[#291013] Memcached: Dealing with unknown keys — Tony Garcia <tony23@...>

I was wondering if there is a way to handle reading keys when you don't

14 messages 2008/02/14

[#291039] Internal Rate of Return (#156) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

Solving the IRR equation is essentially a matter of computational guesswork.

15 messages 2008/02/14

[#291084] object specific methods and id — UpsNDowns <tnospamhomas@...>

Hi,

24 messages 2008/02/14
[#291088] Re: object specific methods and id — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/14

UpsNDowns wrote:

[#291089] Re: object specific methods and id — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2008/02/14

[#291184] Re: object specific methods and id — UpsNDowns <tnospamhomas@...> 2008/02/15

Thanks for the reply.

[#291261] Re: object specific methods and id — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2008/02/16

[#291302] Re: object specific methods and id — UpsNDowns <tnospamhomas@...> 2008/02/16

Gary Wright wrote:

[#291141] The Smallest Circle (#157) — Matthew D Moss <matthew.moss@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz 2:

61 messages 2008/02/15

[#291192] Proper way to RDoc markup? — Serg Koren <skoren@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2008/02/15

[#291269] Alter String base class to perform new (private methods) before returning itself when called by print statements — "Steven G. Harms" <steven.harms@...>

class String

8 messages 2008/02/16

[#291280] GC error ? — Piotr Sawicki <piotr.sawicki@...>

Run this program and observe memory usage.

26 messages 2008/02/16
[#291584] Re: GC error ? — "evanwebb@..." <evanwebb@...> 2008/02/19

On Feb 16, 4:12=A0am, Piotr Sawicki <piotr.sawi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#291281] TRAC - Trac, Project Leads, Python, and Mr. Noah Kantrowitz (sanitizer) — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

Essence:

14 messages 2008/02/16

[#291354] Slide Show v0.1 - A Free Web Alternative to PowerPoint and KeyNote in Ruby Now Live — "Gerald Bauer" <geraldbauer2007@...>

Hello,

12 messages 2008/02/17

[#291381] displaying user inputed arrays — Isaac Toothyxdip <toothyxdip@...>

[code]

36 messages 2008/02/17
[#291405] Re: displaying user inputed arrays — Wally T Terrible <wally.terrible@...> 2008/02/17

I'm not entirely sure what you intend to do. If you wanted to get five

[#291424] Re: displaying user inputed arrays — Siep Korteling <s.korteling@...> 2008/02/17

Wally T Terrible wrote:

[#291858] Re: displaying user inputed arrays — "Todd Benson" <caduceass@...> 2008/02/20

On Feb 17, 2008 9:18 AM, Isaac Toothyxdip <toothyxdip@gmail.com> wrote:

[#291877] Re: displaying user inputed arrays — "Todd Benson" <caduceass@...> 2008/02/20

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Todd Benson <caduceass@gmail.com> wrote:

[#291884] Re: displaying user inputed arrays — Isaac Toothyxdip <toothyxdip@...> 2008/02/20

Thanks that works!

[#291887] Re: displaying user inputed arrays — Isaac Toothyxdip <toothyxdip@...> 2008/02/20

Isaac Toothyxdip wrote:

[#291899] Re: displaying user inputed arrays — "Todd Benson" <caduceass@...> 2008/02/20

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Isaac Toothyxdip <toothyxdip@gmail.com> wrote:

[#291515] Connecting to HyperTerminal — Active View <active.view@...>

Hi all...

16 messages 2008/02/18
[#291525] Re: Connecting to HyperTerminal — Ben Bleything <ben@...> 2008/02/18

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008, Active View wrote:

[#291630] Object#freeze as a basis for caching of method results? — "Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)" <shot@...>

Hello, ruby-talk.

12 messages 2008/02/19

[#291664] ||= [] idiom — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...>

I often make use of this idiom to add something to an array in a hash of arrays:

24 messages 2008/02/19

[#291677] Is there any object-oriented File class in ruby ? — tom_33 <tomjbr.56770318@...>

I am very new to Ruby and my question is about trying to understand

22 messages 2008/02/19

[#291682] HELP: Need to continue the loop after the exception — mirth <mirthcyy@...>

hi guys,

12 messages 2008/02/19

[#291717] IP Address to Decimal - is an one-liner possible? — "Tiago Pinto" <thpinto@...>

Hi guys,

22 messages 2008/02/20

[#291774] What does *args do? — Stedwick <philip.brocoum@...>

I sometimes see funcs declared with def fun (blah, *args)

14 messages 2008/02/20

[#291853] 32bit vs 64bit vs UML performance — Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscription@...>

I've run the QUIZ benchmark on several systems to check their relative

17 messages 2008/02/20

[#291990] beginner's problem with sqlite3 — Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@...>

It would be helpful if the sqlite3-ruby documentation offered one or two

15 messages 2008/02/21

[#292056] Where does instance_eval _magically_ set the variable to? — Andrew Chen <hangfei@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2008/02/21

[#292080] Newbie Mem Leak Issue — Keith Barr <keith.barr@...>

I am fairly new to Ruby and a program that I have created seems to have

14 messages 2008/02/21

[#292186] gsub("\\", "\\\\") seems unintuitive — John Woods <jqwoods@...>

The following confusing behavior is noted in the pickaxe book (2nd ed)

11 messages 2008/02/22

[#292250] ANN: Teach yourself Ruby - the hard way! — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...>

A frequent question from Ruby newcomers is "Okay, I've read the

12 messages 2008/02/23

[#292269] Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — "Avdi Grimm" <avdi@...>

Hi folks,

118 messages 2008/02/23
[#292274] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — "Eric Mahurin" <eric.mahurin@...> 2008/02/23

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Avdi Grimm <avdi@avdi.org> wrote:

[#292385] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — James Gray <james@...> 2008/02/25

On Feb 23, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Eric Mahurin wrote:

[#292281] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2008/02/23

Avdi Grimm wrote:

[#292514] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2008/02/25

On 24/02/2008, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#292584] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — "Jones, Brian - McClatchy Interactive" <bjones@...> 2008/02/26

I'd be at least a little interested in potentially offering developers

[#292594] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — Trans <transfire@...> 2008/02/26

[#292601] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/02/26

Trans wrote:

[#292603] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — "Avdi Grimm" <avdi@...> 2008/02/26

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:25 PM, James Britt <james.britt@gmail.com> wrote:

[#292362] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — furtive.clown@... 2008/02/24

[#292366] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2008/02/24

[#292961] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — Trans <transfire@...> 2008/02/29

[#292978] Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby — "Eric Mahurin" <eric.mahurin@...> 2008/02/29

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#292368] Suprising behaviour with "def property=" method — "Farrel Lifson" <farrel.lifson@...>

I had a bit of a surprise with the following

14 messages 2008/02/24

[#292394] NoMethodError: private method `to_date' — Sukeerthi Adiga <sukeerthiadiga@...>

Loading development environment.

12 messages 2008/02/25

[#292398] Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>

I wrote up an article on Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb that

58 messages 2008/02/25
[#294446] Re: Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/03/13

Hi,

[#294479] Re: Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2008/03/13

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 01:02:52AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#294491] Re: Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/03/13

Hi,

[#294551] Re: Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2008/03/14

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 07:43:28AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#294559] Re: Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/03/14

Hi,

[#294591] Re: Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/03/14

In article <E1JaB7P-0000Zc-QP@x61.netlab.jp>,

[#294639] Re: Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/03/15

Hi,

[#294917] Re: Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/03/18

In article <E1JaM9H-0000jj-AB@x61.netlab.jp>,

[#295093] Re: Thread#raise, Thread#kill, and timeout.rb are unsafe — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2008/03/19

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 02:04:40PM +0900, Tanaka Akira wrote:

[#292540] Math problem — grandmabeckie@...

I am try to help my daughter:

25 messages 2008/02/26

[#292704] Getting number of days in a month — Shandy Nantz <shandybleu@...>

This is probably an easy question but I am trying to get at the number

26 messages 2008/02/27

[#292781] MacRuby — "Laurent Sansonetti" <laurent.sansonetti@...>

Hi,

16 messages 2008/02/28

[#292795] Need a regex searching html code — Chirantan <chirantan.rajhans@...>

I have an html code into string. I want to retrieve the content (Can

18 messages 2008/02/28

[#292816] proc.new and return — S2 <email@...>

I am sure this is a really easy question for most of you, but i was not

15 messages 2008/02/28

[#292839] Proposed Solutions - Was [ Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby ] — hemant <gethemant@...>

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:55 PM, James Britt <james.britt@gmail.com> wrote:

17 messages 2008/02/28

[#292860] Named sprintf parameters — Trans <transfire@...>

I have a question and perhaps a bit of challenge for those with mad

15 messages 2008/02/28

[#292865] constants defined in Kernel are also defined in Object? — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...>

This seems peculiar to me:

15 messages 2008/02/28

[#293044] making a monthly calendar... — Mikkel Bruun <mikkel@...>

Hey

25 messages 2008/02/29
[#293088] Re: making a monthly calendar... — "Todd Benson" <caduceass@...> 2008/03/01

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Mikkel Bruun <mikkel@helenius.dk> wrote:

[#293090] Re: making a monthly calendar... — Mikkel Bruun <mikkel@...> 2008/03/01

Todd Benson wrote:

[#293092] Re: making a monthly calendar... — "Todd Benson" <caduceass@...> 2008/03/01

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Mikkel Bruun <mikkel@helenius.dk> wrote:

[#293223] Re: making a monthly calendar... — "Todd Benson" <caduceass@...> 2008/03/03

Oh my goodness! A thousand apologies. I gave you a rotating month. See below.

[#293264] Re: making a monthly calendar... — Mikkel Bruun <mikkel@...> 2008/03/03

So I ended up with:

TRAC - Trac, Project Leads, Python, and Mr. Noah Kantrowitz (sanitizer)

From: Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
Date: 2008-02-16 12:19:59 UTC
List: ruby-talk #291281
Essence:

 * Trac is deficient, cause of "proud to be an egoism driven amateur"
developers
 * Python and it's communities is excellent for learning. Not
programming, but to "learn from deficiency", community organization,
transparency, efficiency etc.!
 * Do it in perl, if you need something more 'pretty', do it in ruby,
if you need something more 'serious' do it in java, if you have enough
brain and time, do it in C++ from bottom up.


-

I don't think that's a secret anymore. Anyone should know that the
trac team has huge problems to bring trac forward. People who have
looked at the code-base and project understand some reason: difficult
to maintain 'spaghetti-code' in many places, disorganized project,
missing separations of concerns etc.! I've provided an overview some
time ago

http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/TracAudit

At this time the developers are searching like crazy to find a mem-
leak... since months.

http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6614

But the main problem with the trac team is the processing within
project resources. Believe it or not, developers can act within this
project as they like, 'trimming' ticket comments in a way that a
ticket gets a totally other meaning.

The main specialist for this is Mr. Noah Kantrowitz. He calls it
"sanitizing". The team hides behind him, cowardly, without any public
vote.

How did everything start?

I post a simple message to trac-users (note: the user resource, NOT
the developer resource), in order to extend my custom version of trac
0.11 a little. The message did not appear, as my email is under
moderation. I do not switch to another email, as I write always with
the same identity.

So i file a ticket within the ticket system (here you can see the
"After a quick vote, it has been decided to sanitize this ticket. "...
I start to like this "sanitize" term, sounds really interesting)

http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6802

Mr. Noah Kantrowitz deleted the discussion, but I've saved it here,
thus you can see that the developers of trac have no idea about their
own processes:

http://case.lazaridis.com/ticket/48

After the developers placed the usual irrelevant comments (remember: I
just asked them to stop blocking my messages to trac users), they
"brute force closed" the ticket.

I've opened a new one, directly adressed to the project lead, in order
to complain about the developers which violate the project processes,
and to ask for a formal vote:

http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6844

Right! Mr. Noah Kantrowitz plays again "wild west". I relly don't know
who of those two is more funny: the one who plays the dictator, or the
other joker who suggests to revers the process (I should find
developers to veto against the censorship and send the to the team).

Remember: we are talking about the trac-user group.

I really cannot believe that a whole team can be in such way confused,
nuts, blind, egoism-driven etc.! Possibly they have lost the password
to the trac-user group, and are not able to manage it - who knows. I
would not wonder, seeing thos terrible processes and the rejection to
improve them.

(btw: If you like to act against censorship, please post this message
to trac-users, thus the get informed about the teams processing)

And we are talking about censorship of a trac 0.11dev custom-version-
developer. A custom version with localization support, plugin-bundles
(product-plugin) which run out of the svn, an fully functional but
simple side-navigation, and... everything deactivatable with a very
simple way, thus the original trac is there again.

http://dev.lazaridis.com/base

Open Source works like this: many many small human ego's need to be
fitted. There's no place for developers which could redesign the whole
thing within a few months. the trac-developers need to 'fight' with
tons of spaghetti. The developers plan like crazy, instead to merge
with a application framework like e.g. turbogears. Did you know that
trac has no support for... datetime fields?  Yes, its true.

You may say: do it yourself. Of course I could do it, even without
touching the main sources (using dyna-patches or monkeypatches). But
that's not how open-source works. You implement thing for yourself and
contribute things back to the core-project - but with trac there's one
problem: no one get's the core anymore (apparently the initial
developer has left)

Of course I'll not stay with trac, I'll leave the sinking ship, I've
prepare long time ago to do so, step by step. An will migrate step by
step away from trac and python - toward an own implementation based
on...

perl and it's libraries.

Really, I don't understand the need for python. And after fighting
with some indenting within html templates, I dislike the whitespace-
syntax-thing of python again.

Do it in perl, if you need something more 'pretty', do it in ruby, if
you need something more 'serious' do it in java, if you have enough
brain and time, do it in C++ from bottom up.

 Python and it's communities is excellent for learning. Not
programming, but to "learn from deficiency", community organization,
transparency, efficiency etc.!

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So, keep your eyes on this project, if you want to be prepared to jump-
off the sinking ship "trac"

http://dev.lazaridis.com/base/



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