From: Rick DeNatale Date: 2008-02-28T02:42:10+09:00 Subject: Re: Monkeypatching is Destroying Ruby On 2/27/08, Trans wrote: > > > On Feb 27, 8:30 am, "Eivind Eklund" wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:25 PM, James Britt wrote: > > > Code that is poorly written or does not play well with others tends to > > > get discarded. > > > > We still have Gems, which don't play well at all with others (on a > > technical basis) - witness the conflicts with the Debian team, and > > what every other Unix package maintainer says about this. This proves > > that this mechanism doesn't work so well if there is a size/momentum > > advantage. > > > I would now suggest that it is the FHS that is holding us back, not > the other way around --talk about your size/momentum advantage. > > Suggested reading: > > http://gobolinux.org/index.php?page=doc/articles/clueless > > > > Also, discussing what is appropriate and not is a good way to educate > > people, and to help us all learn to think more clearly in the area. In the case of Debian and Gems, I think it's a mixture of a somewhat draconian interpretation of the FHS, and a desire to make the gems themselves somehow work like debian packages, which don't envision things like having multiple versions of a gem installed concurrently. -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/