[#121980] SOT gmail invites — Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@...>

X % of the people of this list appear to be using GoogleMail, where X

93 messages 2004/12/01
[#122062] Re: SOT gmail invites — Steve Zich <szich@...> 2004/12/01

On 2004-11-30 19:26:08 -0800, Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@gmail.com> said:

[#122063] Re: SOT gmail invites — Robert McGovern <robert.mcgovern@...> 2004/12/01

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 02:17:45 +0900, Steve Zich >

[#122065] Re: SOT gmail invites — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...> 2004/12/01

i've got 3 left...

[#122240] Re: SOT gmail invites — Stefan Schmiedl <s@...> 2004/12/02

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:34:29 +0900,

[#122246] Re: SOT gmail invites — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...> 2004/12/02

Stefan Schmiedl wrote:

[#122254] Re: SOT gmail invites — Carl Youngblood <carlwork@...> 2004/12/02

Jamis Buck wrote:

[#122397] Re: SOT gmail invites — Hans Fugal <hans@...> 2004/12/03

Carl Youngblood wrote:

[#122400] Re: SOT gmail invites — Carl Youngblood <carlwork@...> 2004/12/03

Hans Fugal wrote:

[#122427] Re: SOT gmail invites — Hans Fugal <hans@...> 2004/12/03

Carl Youngblood wrote:

[#122066] Re: SOT gmail invites — Pat Eyler <pate@...> 2004/12/01

I'd take one,

[#122072] Re: SOT gmail invites — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...> 2004/12/01

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 02:58:33 +0900, you wrote:

[#122073] Re: SOT gmail invites — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2004/12/01

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 03:57:19 +0900, tony summerfelt

[#122075] Re: SOT gmail invites — Matt Maycock <ummaycoc@...> 2004/12/01

I've got some, too...

[#122112] Re: SOT gmail invites — Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@...> 2004/12/02

Ok, who missed out, I've got a couple left.

[#122120] Re: SOT gmail invites — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...> 2004/12/02

Lyndon Samson wrote:

[#122069] Rails with webrick slow as snails — Sarah Tanembaum <sarahtanembaum@...>

I've followed the sample installation

15 messages 2004/12/01
[#122071] Re: Rails with webrick slow as snails — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2004/12/01

> BUT

[#122083] Re: Rails with webrick slow as snails — Sarah Tanembaum <sarahtanembaum@...> 2004/12/01

David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:

[#122110] ordered hash ? — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>

Is there a pure-ruby ordered hash? I'm looking for something that will

44 messages 2004/12/02
[#122176] Re: ordered hash ? — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2004/12/02

* itsme213 <itsme213@hotmail.com> [Dec 02, 2004 14:00]:

[#122156] Does anyone have benchmark programs for YARV? — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2004/12/02

[#122177] nested defs, what if... — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>

This is too half-baked to be an RCR, but here goes...

17 messages 2004/12/02
[#122179] Re: nested defs, what if... — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/12/02

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 23:44:08 +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng

[#122212] Re: nested defs, what if... — Brian =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Schr=F6der?= <ruby@...> 2004/12/02

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 23:57:09 +0900

[#122180] Net::SSH 0.6.0 — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...>

Here's another release of Net::SSH, your friendly neighborhood pure-Ruby

12 messages 2004/12/02

[#122288] Ruby documentation. — Adam Fabian <afabian@...>

I'm kind of getting the impression that Ruby might not be

31 messages 2004/12/03

[#122350] Crosswords (#10) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

18 messages 2004/12/03

[#122371] GC run at end of script execution - order in which objects are claimed? — Tilman Sauerbeck <tilman@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2004/12/03

[#122416] *sigh* Anyone having wireless working on a linux machine? — "Abraham Vionas" <abe_ml@...>

I've tried something like eight different distributions and the best I've

11 messages 2004/12/03

[#122444] Using yield — "Joe Van Dyk" <joe.vandyk@...>

I come from a heavy C++ background, discovered Ruby a few months ago and

26 messages 2004/12/04

[#122475] Ruby 2.0 — "Joe Van Dyk" <joe.vandyk@...>

When is Ruby 2.0 due? Or estimated due date?

44 messages 2004/12/04
[#122544] Re: Ruby 2.0 — w_a_x_man@... (William James) 2004/12/04

Brian Mitchell <binary42@gmail.com> wrote

[#122549] Re: Ruby 2.0 — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2004/12/04

William James wrote:

[#122554] Re: Ruby 2.0 — Giovanni Intini <intinig@...> 2004/12/04

> 32.times{|y|print" "*(31-y),(0..y).map{|x|~y&x>0?" .":" A"},$/}

[#122604] Re: Ruby 2.0 — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2004/12/05

Giovanni Intini wrote:

[#122619] patch to "make def return something useful" — Peter <Peter.Vanbroekhoven@...>

In RCR 277 it is proposed to have def return something useful, more

15 messages 2004/12/06

[#122630] Freezing Variable Assignment — Nicholas Van Weerdenburg <vanweerd@...>

Hi,

62 messages 2004/12/06
[#122740] Re: Freezing Variable Assignment — "itsme213" <itsme213@...> 2004/12/06

[#122762] Re: Freezing Variable Assignment — "itsme213" <itsme213@...> 2004/12/07

[#122766] Re: Freezing Variable Assignment — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/12/07

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:07:32 +0900, itsme213 <itsme213@hotmail.com>

[#122805] Re: Freezing Variable Assignment — Nicholas Van Weerdenburg <vanweerd@...> 2004/12/07

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:44:09 +0900, Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:

[#122644] Signatures and one liners — Brian Mitchell <binary42@...>

readers.each{|x| puts "Hi #{x},"}

23 messages 2004/12/06

[#122645] Duck images — "Dave Burt" <dave@...>

Hi,

35 messages 2004/12/06
[#122697] Re: Duck images — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2004/12/06

In article <vcSsd.61264$K7.35690@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,

[#122713] Re: Duck images — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/12/06

On Monday 06 December 2004 12:52 pm, Phil Tomson wrote:

[#122715] Re: Duck images — Michael DeHaan <michael.dehaan@...> 2004/12/06

0>

[#122696] Ruby Article at Linux Journal — pat eyler <pat.eyler@...>

Hey, it looks like our own Ara Howard has been busy. He's got a cool

15 messages 2004/12/06

[#122775] Recommened readings? — "John" <jtrunek@...>

For one of my university courses, I have to complete a paper on Ruby.

13 messages 2004/12/07

[#122782] Ruby Weekly News 29th Nov - 5th Dec 2004 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)

http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?RubyNews/2004-11-29

12 messages 2004/12/07

[#122798] Idiom for creating hash from two arrays — Jonathan Paisley <jp-www@...>

Hello all,

22 messages 2004/12/07

[#122875] Re: [rcr] String#split behaves odd — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

Ryan Davis [mailto:ryand-ruby@zenspider.com] wrote:

30 messages 2004/12/08
[#122886] Re: [rcr] String#split behaves odd — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/12/08

Hi,

[#122894] Re: [rcr] String#split behaves odd — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/12/08

On Wednesday 08 December 2004 12:00 am, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#122940] Re: [rcr] String#split behaves odd — Florian Frank <flori@...> 2004/12/08

On 2004-12-08 15:56:01 +0900, trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#123046] Re: [rcr] String#split behaves odd — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/12/09

On Wednesday 08 December 2004 10:00 am, Florian Frank wrote:

[#123068] Re: [rcr] String#split behaves odd — Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@...> 2004/12/09

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#123085] Re: [rcr] String#split behaves odd — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/12/09

On Thursday 09 December 2004 08:19 am, Glenn Parker wrote:

[#123100] Re: String#split behaves odd — Ibraheem Umaru-Mohammed <iumarumohammed@...> 2004/12/09

++ trans. (T. Onoma) [ruby-talk] [10/12/04 00:43 +0900]:

[#123103] Re: String#split behaves odd — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/12/09

On Thursday 09 December 2004 12:29 pm, Ibraheem Umaru-Mohammed wrote:

[#122918] RubyScript2Exe 0.2.0 — "Erik Veenstra" <pan@...>

28 messages 2004/12/08

[#123076] Crosswords (#10) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The summary for this week's quiz should be:

11 messages 2004/12/09

[#123137] Want to Write a Book? — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

Gentle Ruby folk:

40 messages 2004/12/10

[#123189] Learning Tic-Tac-Toe (#11) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

58 messages 2004/12/10
[#123196] Re: [QUIZ] Learning Tic-Tac-Toe (#11) — Brian =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Schr=F6der?= <ruby@...> 2004/12/10

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:29:02 +0900

[#123198] Re: [QUIZ] Learning Tic-Tac-Toe (#11) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2004/12/10

On Dec 10, 2004, at 9:19 AM, Brian Schrer wrote:

[#123204] Re: [QUIZ] Learning Tic-Tac-Toe (#11) — Brian =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Schr=F6der?= <ruby@...> 2004/12/10

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:42:04 +0900

[#123206] Re: [QUIZ] Learning Tic-Tac-Toe (#11) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2004/12/10

On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:11 AM, Brian Schrer wrote:

[#123218] Re: [QUIZ] Learning Tic-Tac-Toe (#11) — Brian =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Schr=F6der?= <ruby@...> 2004/12/10

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 01:22:30 +0900

[#123313] Re: [QUIZ] Learning Tic-Tac-Toe (#11) — Hans Fugal <fugalh@...> 2004/12/11

It would be good to be able to play against eachother when this is all

[#123195] iconv replacement for windows? — Thomas Leitner <t_leitner@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2004/12/10
[#123205] Re: iconv replacement for windows? — Thomas Leitner <t_leitner@...> 2004/12/10

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:45:11 +0900

[#123222] How to make a deep copy of an object (Searching for Idiom) — Brian =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Schr=F6der?= <ruby@...>

Hello Group,

18 messages 2004/12/10

[#123317] puts / print as method not keyword? — zuzu <sean.zuzu@...>

so, i'm thinking about language design with a particular interest in

23 messages 2004/12/11
[#123319] Re: puts / print as method not keyword? — Ilmari Heikkinen <kig@...> 2004/12/11

[#123321] Re: puts / print as method not keyword? — zuzu <sean.zuzu@...> 2004/12/11

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 05:23:10 +0900, Ilmari Heikkinen <kig@misfiring.net> wrote:

[#123351] Find every location of "th" in string. — "William James" <w_a_x_man@...>

Find location of every "th" in "the thin man thinks".

14 messages 2004/12/12

[#123426] Any bug/issue trackers written in Ruby? — "J. D." <jd@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2004/12/12

[#123454] Abstracts and Interfaces in Ruby? — Miles Keaton <mileskeaton@...>

What's the recommended Ruby way to do abstract classes and abstract methods?

12 messages 2004/12/13

[#123590] wxRuby and other GUI toolkits — Nick <devel@...>

24 messages 2004/12/14
[#123616] Re: wxRuby and other GUI toolkits — "itsme213" <itsme213@...> 2004/12/14

Any chance you could provide a simplified interface along the lines

[#123614] Apache2, FastCGI and Rails on Windows — "Williams, Chris" <Chris.Williams@...>

I've been running around in circles trying to enable FastCGI on my rails

20 messages 2004/12/14
[#123630] Re: Apache2, FastCGI and Rails on Windows — Kent Sibilev <ksibilev@...> 2004/12/14

I'm running my rails application on the same environment and it works

[#123825] Re: Apache2, FastCGI and Rails on Windows — Sarah Tanembaum <sarahtanembaum@...> 2004/12/16

Kent Sibilev wrote:

[#123831] Re: Apache2, FastCGI and Rails on Windows — Kent Sibilev <ksibilev@...> 2004/12/16

Oh, This is quite easy. I assume you have Ruby and RubyForApache

[#123626] Ruby Wiki engine w/ability to upload files — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>

Hello again,

12 messages 2004/12/14

[#123661] rand.rb 0.9: Random access methods for Enumerables — Ilmari Heikkinen <kig@...>

Hello all, here's a little convenience library we whipped up a couple

17 messages 2004/12/15

[#123694] Re: [BUG] unknown node type 0 - SERIOUS ENOUGH TO MIGRATE AWAY FROM RUBY? — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

This is a long standing bug in Ruby, and has been reported hundreds of times

16 messages 2004/12/15

[#123740] P2P application in 15 lines of Python posted on slashdot — slonik AZ <slonik.az@...>

Hi Everybody,

16 messages 2004/12/15

[#123815] Ruby Cocoa (OS X) questions: deployment & interface builder — Michael DeHaan <michael.dehaan@...>

Folks,

13 messages 2004/12/16

[#123852] Rails 0.9: Fast development, breakpoints, validations... — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>

Another huge upgrade with again close to 100 changes, additions, and

10 messages 2004/12/16

[#123898] Scrabble Stems (#12) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

22 messages 2004/12/17

[#123983] OT: vi useability question — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...>

Hello ruby-talk,

30 messages 2004/12/18
[#124013] Re: OT: vi useability question — Roeland Moors <roelandmoors@...> 2004/12/19

On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 08:07:28AM +0900, Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#124130] Re: OT: vi useability question — Hans Fugal <fugalh@...> 2004/12/20

Roeland Moors wrote:

[#124131] A RDoc template without frames — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>

Despite the snazzy look of the new default RDoc templates with three

21 messages 2004/12/20
[#124171] Re: A RDoc template without frames — "John W. Long" <ng@...> 2004/12/21

I did a design up once for something without frames:

[#124176] Re: A RDoc template without frames — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...> 2004/12/21

John W. Long wrote:

[#124140] Is there any ruby compatible graphics/imaging utilities ... — Sarah Tanembaum <sarahtanembaum@...>

that works under native mswin323232 or at least with Cygwin X windows

16 messages 2004/12/20

[#124175] Text::Hyphen 1.0.0 — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...>

I just told you that I'm releasing Text::Hyphen 1.0.0, and here it is

14 messages 2004/12/21

[#124182] curses - how to use unicode — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

Yesterday I got xterm working with UTF-8. I had made an oneliner that

13 messages 2004/12/21

[#124198] Re: OT: vi useability question — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

Mikael Brockman [mailto:mikael@phubuh.org] wrote:

28 messages 2004/12/21
[#124200] Re: OT: vi useability question — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...> 2004/12/21

* "Pe?a, Botp" <botp@delmonte-phil.com> [1210 11:10]:

[#124290] Re: OT: vi useability question — Fredrik Jagenheim <jagenheim@...> 2004/12/22

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:16:14 +0900, Dick Davies

[#124329] All I want to do is move a directory :( — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...>

Very frustrated. I have just spent well over an hour trying to do the simplest

16 messages 2004/12/22
[#124339] Re: All I want to do is move a directory :( — Gennady Bystritksy <gfb@...> 2004/12/22

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#124343] Re: All I want to do is move a directory :( — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/12/22

On Wednesday 22 December 2004 04:25 pm, Gennady Bystritksy wrote:

[#124344] Re: All I want to do is move a directory :( — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/12/23

I think the problem may be that the :force option isn't working correctly on

[#124391] Merry Christmas — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...>

20 messages 2004/12/24
[#124397] Re: Merry Christmas — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/12/24

:( I get

[#124400] Re: Merry Christmas — CT <demerzel@...> 2004/12/24

> On Friday 24 December 2004 08:21 am, Christian Neukirchen wrote:

[#124433] Re: Merry Christmas — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...> 2004/12/25

CT wrote:

[#124413] ruby 1.8.2 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

Merry Christmas,

25 messages 2004/12/25

[#124439] HTML and CSS validation — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>

What's the best method to automate the validation

17 messages 2004/12/25

[#124502] Ri bug in new 1.8.2 release — jim@...

Hi

13 messages 2004/12/26

[#124562] split on '' (and another for split -1) — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...>

Here's a generic routine I'm working on:

11 messages 2004/12/27

[#124591] Ruby Philosophy — Darren Crotchett <rubylang@...>

I'm trying to get a feel for the philosophical differences between Smalltalk,

19 messages 2004/12/28

[#124596] Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Thursday <nospam@...>

I think Ruby's popularity is growing, but I can't help but wonder what

196 messages 2004/12/28
[#127081] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/01/19

Hi all, I got to this discussion really late, but I have some ideas.

[#127100] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2005/01/19

Ben Giddings wrote:

[#127162] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/01/19

Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#127180] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/01/19

Hi,

[#127191] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/01/19

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#127207] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — ruby talk <ruby.talk.list@...> 2005/01/19

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:14:28 +0900, Ben Giddings

[#127228] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/01/19

ruby talk (AKA James Britt) wrote:

[#127232] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...> 2005/01/19

Ben Giddings (bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com) wrote:

[#127255] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...> 2005/01/19

why the lucky stiff ha scritto:

[#127315] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — "zimba.tm@..." <zimba.tm@...> 2005/01/20

I think it's cool to have community-driven websites,

[#127353] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/01/20

zimba.tm@gmail.com wrote:

[#127360] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/01/20

HI --

[#127369] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/01/20

David A. Black wrote:

[#127674] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/01/22

Hi --

[#127984] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/01/25

David A. Black wrote:

[#128748] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Ian Hobson <Ian.Hobson@...> 2005/01/28

In message <41F58CEF.70807@infofiend.com>, Ben Giddings

[#127424] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2005/01/20

David A. Black wrote:

[#127431] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2005/01/20

James Britt wrote:

[#127435] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2005/01/21

Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#124652] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...> 2004/12/28

Thursday ha scritto:

[#125257] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland) 2005/01/06

In article <41D44401.4060104@mktec.com>, Zach Dennis wrote:

[#124672] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Tom Copeland <tom@...> 2004/12/28

On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 11:36, gabriele renzi wrote:

[#124674] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@...> 2004/12/28

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 05:54:01 +0900, Tom Copeland <tom@infoether.com> wrote:

[#124675] Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity — Tom Copeland <tom@...> 2004/12/28

On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 16:00, Premshree Pillai wrote:

[#124607] help on making ruby code faster — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>

I use 128bit GUID values a lot, and on my Guid class there's the

17 messages 2004/12/28

[#124612] verifying a network connection — Thomas Metz <metz@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2004/12/28

[#124746] #send and private methods — Brian Palmer <brian@...>

I apologize if this has been discussed before and I missed it...

12 messages 2004/12/29

[#124805] Inheritance of class variables — "Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira Jr." <eustaquiorangel@...>

Hello there.

18 messages 2004/12/30

[#124899] Ruby and Smalltalk like environment?

Hi there,

14 messages 2004/12/31

FAQ for comp.lang.ruby

From: hal9000@...
Date: 2004-12-15 18:38:12 UTC
List: ruby-talk #123717
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2004-10-16)

This FAQ contains information for those who want to:

  1) learn more about Ruby, and want to 
  2) post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
  3) provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.

This FAQ will be posted monthly. If you are reading the text version
via the mailing list or the newsgroup, note that you can find it on 
the web at: http://rubyhacker.com/clrFAQ.html

A German version of this FAQ is maintained by Josef "Jupp" Schugt. It can be 
found at: http://oss.erdfunkstelle.de/ruby/

Note that this is *not* the Ruby language FAQ! This can be found at:
http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

TABLE OF CONTENTS

    1 About Ruby
    1.1 What is Ruby?
    1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
    2 About comp.lang.ruby.
    2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby.
    2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
    2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
    2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
    2.5 What are these 6-digit message numbers?
    2.6 What is "POLS"?
    3 Anything else?

1 About Ruby

1.1 What is Ruby?

    Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed,
    Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite
    its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical
    "industrial strength" development language.  

    Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
    Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, CLU, and LISP. Ruby combines 
    these ideas in a natural, well-coordinated system that embodies 
    the principles of least effort and least surprise to a 
    substantially greater extent than most comparable languages -- 
    i.e., you get more bang for your buck, and what you write is more
    likely to give you what you expected to get.  Ruby is thus a 
    relatively easy to learn, easy to read, and easy to maintain 
    language; yet it is very powerful and sophisticated.  

    In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads,
    singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and
    iterators, plus proper meta-classes.   Ruby has a true
    mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable
    and simplifies writing extensions.  In summary, Ruby provides a
    very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders
    of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly
    and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to
    do.  
    
    You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and
    C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in
    Ruby.

    Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming
    language.  

1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?

    If you're into IRC, check out #ruby-lang on FreeNode. There are also 
    many web and print resources listed below:


    Ruby's home web site:
    
        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/  (Ruby home page)

            Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby
            Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and 
	    lots of other interesting information.  

    RubyForge (A major repository with hundreds of Ruby projects)

        http://rubyforge.org

    Ruby-Doc.org (A large source of Ruby documentation)
    
    RubyCentral.COM (Ruby's other major on-line docs and links site):
    
        http://www.rubycentral.com/  

    RubyCentral.ORG (Home of RubyCentral, Inc.)
    
        http://www.rubycentral.org/  

    RubyGarden (An important wiki site, very content-rich)

        http://rubygarden.org/

    Ruby FAQ: 
    
        http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

    Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial):

        http://www.ruby-lang.org/~slagell/ruby/

    _Why's Poignant Guide to Ruby (A Ruby tutorial on acid, featuring 
        cartoon foxes)

        http://poignantguide.net/ruby/


    Note: The list of books below is now frozen. I don't
    want to maintain this forever. We all hope the number
    of Ruby books increases, of course.

    English language Ruby books (recent publication order):

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        2nd edition. See below.

        Making Use of Ruby
	by Suresh Mahadevan
	Wiley; ISBN 0-471-21972-X (2002)

        Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days
        by Mark Slagell
        Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002)

        Ruby Developer's Guide
        by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson
        Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002)

        The Ruby Way
        by Hal Fulton
        Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001)

        Ruby In A Nutshell
        by Yukihiro Matsumoto
        O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001)

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt
        Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000)
        (As of Sept 2004, there is a second edition also. It is
         not open-sourced at this time.)
        Online version: http://www.rubycentral.com/book/
	(Note that this is a *legal* first edition.)
        Download: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/downloads/book.html
        Errata: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata/errata.html

    German language Ruby books (author alpha order):

        Das Einsteigerseminar Ruby. Der methodische und 
        ausfrliche Einstieg.
        by Dirk Engel and Klaus Spreckelsen 
        ISBN: 3826672429

        Programmieren mit Ruby
        by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, et al.
        dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002)
	Online: http://www.approximity.com/rubybuch2/node1_main.html

        Programmieren mit Ruby. Handbuch f den pragmatischen 
        Programmierer.
	Dave Thomas & Andy Hunt
        Addison-Wesley, 2002; ISBN: 382731965X.
        A German translation of the "Pickaxe" (Programming Ruby).

	Pickaxe translation by Juergen Katins: 
	  http://home.vr-web.de/juergen.katins/ruby/buch/

    Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list
    (which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000):

        http://groups.google.com/groups?q=comp.lang.ruby
        http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml

    Local Ruby users and groups in your area:

        http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups

2 About comp.lang.ruby

2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby

    comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000. 
    (Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was 
    responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.)
    Here is the official charter:

        CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby

        The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the
        Ruby programming language and related issues.

        Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited
        to, the following subjects:

        - Bug reports
        - Announcements of software written with Ruby
        - Examples of Ruby code
        - Suggestions for Ruby developers
        - Requests for help from new Ruby programmers

        The newsgroup is not moderated.  Binaries are prohibited
        (except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except
        for announcements of new Ruby-related products).

        END CHARTER.

2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.

    (You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail
    list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.) 

    (1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful.  We
        want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of
        newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as
        cater to fire breathing wizards.  :-)

    (2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep
        your content brief and to the point, but also try to include
        all relevant information.

        (a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are
            matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life
            easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or 
            when perusing archives):

            - PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts
              *BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much
              as is relevant. 
            - Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most
              mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if
              yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a
              web-based service that does.
            - Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't
              use attachments.

        (b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant
            information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends
            newsgroup.  :-)  When appropriate, include:

            - The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v")
            - The compiler name and version used to build Ruby.
            - The OS type and level. ("uname -a")
            - The actual error messages.
            - An example (preferably simple) that produces the
              problem.

        (c) If reporting a bug, please copy (cc:) your post to:

                mailto:ruby-bugs@ruby-lang.org

            This will enter your report into the Ruby bug database.
            You can browse the database at:

                http://www.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/ruby-bugs

    (3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people
        who should be interested will read your post and so that people
        who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it.  

        *Usefully* describe the contents of your post:

            This is OK: 
            
                "How can I do x with y on z?"
                "Problem: did x, expected y, got z."
                "BUG: doing x with module y crashed z."

            This is *NOT* OK:

                "Please help!!!"
                "Newbie question"
                "Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong"

	    These prefixes have become common for subject lines:

                ANN:  (for announcements)
	        BUG:  (for bug reports)
	        OT:   (for off-topic, if you must post off-topic)
    
    (4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are
        seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it
        up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby
	FAQ and other documentation, use google.com to search past
        comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on.  

2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.

    Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for
    us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking
    questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and
    his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his 
    suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on 
    the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.

2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?

    The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they
    diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway 
    that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa.
    (This was accomplished in 200 lines of Ruby code.) It is not 
    perfect; because of variability in the news feed, sometimes 
    messages are dropped or duplicated.

    The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most
    of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were
    made before the creation of the gateway.

    Note: Spam or other inappropriate messages are NOT the 
    responsibility of Dave Thomas, who maintains the gateway. He
    does everything in his power to deal with this issue. Do NOT
    report spam to his ISP merely because the messages come from
    his server.

2.5 What are these 6-digit message numbers?

    Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject
    starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999]

    The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly
    serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But
    they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the
    matter was put to a vote in early 2002.

    The news header still refers to this number, should anyone
    wish to retrieve it. On the mailing list this number can
    now be found in the X-Mail-Count: header.

    You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the
    ruby-talk.com URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.com/12345 will refer
    to message 12345.

2.6 What is "POLS"?

    POLS is an abbreviation for "Principle of Least Surprise" (also 
    called the Law of Least Astonishment).

    This term certainly did not originate in the Ruby community, but 
    it has been frequently used there -- even overused or abused at 
    times. After all, *every* language or software system seeks at 
    some level to adhere to this principle. Is any system designed 
    to be unintuitive?

    It is inappropriate to invoke POLS as a "magic word" when one's 
    individual expectations are not met. Ruby continues to evolve, 
    and Matz often makes changes based on people wishes, needs, or 
    suggestions. But he cannot be bribed or threatened. Make 
    suggestions if you wish, but think twice before mentioning POLS.


3. Anything else?

    If you are new to Ruby (or haven't previously taken the Ruby User
    Survey), please take a moment to anonymously tell us about your
    programming background and about your Ruby-related interests. The
    results will be reported back to the Ruby community from time to
    time. This helps us do a better job of helping each other, and to
    more effectively expand the Ruby community for our mutual benefit.
    The survey is at:

        http://dev.rubycentral.com/survey.html

    This FAQ was originally produced by Conrad Schneiker.
    It is now maintained by Hal Fulton (hal9000@hypermetrics.com).
    I'm interested in corrections and suggestions, but remember that
    the purpose of this FAQ is to be a brief and simple introduction
    for new comp.lang.ruby readers.  
    
    In closing, one of the reasons that Ruby was designed to be
    relatively simple, uniform, yet very powerful was to make serious
    programming (among other kinds) fun.  We hope you will help us
    keep comp.lang.ruby fun as well. Enjoy.  :-)

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