From: Michael DeHaan Date: 2004-12-17T07:17:53+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby Cocoa (OS X) questions: deployment & interface builder On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 03:57:12 +0900, steven_todd_harris@yahoo.com wrote: > Not to sound like an employee of the company or anything (I'm not It's > just that I relate to your questions and have asked the same ones so I > feel your pain), but I really suggest trying out the ambria stuff. I > also ran into this issue. Quite anoying. Ambria is in beta and is > already quite good. It won't be free but it won't be expensive either. > If you like ruby you'll like smalltalk (I love both). > http://www.ambrai.com/ > > Steven --- Your examples do look nice. As far as licensing goes (seeing you haven't defined it yet?), you might want to look at ActiveState's model, which breeds revenue primarily from commercial support and distribution rights while still allowing very liberal (and free!) use as long as the runtime is not distributed. This is awesome because it is used like wildfire in commercial environments behind-the-scenes-and-in-development and has very good name recognition, yet to build anything that directly generates revenue as an external shippable product, you need to pay them money (they also have very nice packaging tools you get for that $). Anyhow, just my two cents. I'll probably play with your beta as I do have an interest in at least casual exposure to a variety of languages, as a pathological interest in shiny Cocoa GUI's. --MPD === Tod> I don't know him, and haven't tried it, but Tod> http://www.philsgaff.co.uk/index.php?p=51 discusses bundling ruby into Tod> an app. And better yet, it has an awesome duck banner at the top of the page! Ducks rule!