From: Stu Date: 2004-12-12T08:27:23+09:00 Subject: Re: iconv replacement for windows? On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 06:40:20 +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote: >At a minimum, the Ruby bindings must be included. If there are >redistributables (e.g., openssl.dll, iconv.dll) that would be >beneficial, they should be included but made optional for >installation. > >The point is to have a complete installer for people who would run >our applications, not just programmers. If not, then we tell people >on Windows to download and install fifteen things *before they can >even RUN Ruby*. > like i said, I have nothing against loading the installer with everything under the sun, its a great way to distribute a base install etc. and id love to see more binary extensions come with the installer, for things that are a PITA to build oneself (ala mod_ruby, db drivers, ncurses, etc). its easy to say XYZ is in rubygems, and it would be quite easy for a non-programmer to gem install XYZ.. but do we expect non-programmers to have compilers installed if they try to gem install ncurses?? the other side of the coin is a base ruby install with nothing else and some secondary install packs, say ruby-database-1click-installer or ruby-widgets-1click for gtk/wx/fox/etc, mm im going off on tangents now... -- Stu -- [FAQ] Write Your Own Operating System http://www.mega-tokyo.com/osfaq2