From: why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>
Date: 2005-01-20T08:13:08+09:00
Subject: Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity

First of all, alot of your comments are concerned with left vs. right
placement.  In my mind, the material on the right is current information
geared toward a swift introduction to Ruby.  The stuff on the left is
factual information as well as domain-specific and dated (but important)
websites.

RAA is a notable omission.  I was trying to figure out where to add it,
but decided to just post the thing anyway.  Play with text in Photoshop
isn't any fun.

gabriele renzi (rff_rff@remove-yahoo.it) wrote:
> 
> First, where are docs? were they outsourced to ruby-doc in toto or
> it is my chance to just read the 4 "learn ruby" titles?
> And why is "browse handbook" which (if I knew what "the handbook" is) is 
> supposed to bring me to documentation, separated from the other stuff?
> 

The "handbook" is imaginary at present, just like the mockup.
I'm referring to an online manual which is organized like Python or PHP
documentation.  A language reference (one method per page and module
summary pages) which allows user comments.

Just an idea.

> I understand this is a mock page, what I mean is that once you go this 
> route you may end up re-adding lots of the stuff wich is there aty the 
> moment, again  messing up the page.

Well, the idea is that the home page would give precedence to current
information.  Hopefully the management of the home page would consist of
an active team which would conduct weekly or monthly reviews of content.
I think we could be more succinct and leave out some information, since
there's no need to be exhaustive on a single page.

Is monetary contribution to Ruby a higher priority than offering a link
to the Rails blog?  The team would determine this.

Is offering simultaneous translations feasible and worthwhile?  Or
should separate sites be maintained for Japanese, English, and
potentially other offerings?

I never navigate through a menu.  I never click all the links on a page.
I haven't even made it through all the links at RubyGarden despite
actively desiring fresh news for RedHanded.  I think we can limit the
information presented safely.

Of course, these aren't my decisions to make.  And this whole discussion
is rather hypothetical in light of (1) having no Ruby.org, (2) having a
functional Ruby-Lang.org which I am quite grateful for and (3) teamwork
between international parties being as hard as it is anyway.

_why