From: Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Date: 2004-12-10T22:58:30+09:00
Subject: Re: [ADV] Want to Write a Book?

Stefan Schmiedl wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:24:41 +0900,
> Michael Neumann <mneumann@ntecs.de> wrote:
> 
>>Stefan, did you have taken a look at Wee? Or are you using IOWA due to 
>>it's templating engine? Wee is much more like the current Seaside by Avi 
>>Bryant, but not a plain port thereof. 
> 
> 
> Well, Iowa is production quality, and I needed something right away.
> It's quite convenient to work with (after the first date, which would
> have turned out quite awkward, had I not found a chapter about it in
> a book co-authored by some chap calling himself Stefan Schmiedl).
> Together with Kansas, it fits my current needs quite good.

Sure, Wee is some steps away from production quality, just because 
important parts have to be reworked (Session, Application classes, which 
are not in the core ;-)). Nevertheless, those are only a few hundred 
lines of code...

BTW, would be nice to hear why you did choose IOWA and not Rails. Simply 
because you did not tried it, or for some other reasons... I'm just 
curious ;-)

>>It's still in development, 
>>currently I'm mostly on documenting it:
>>
>>http://www.ntecs.de/viewcvs/viewcvs/*checkout*/Wee/branches/dev/doc/rdoc/index.html?rev=363
> 
> 
> Documentation is a Good Thing. I knew about your efforts on Wee (Armin
> has mentioned it on our blog somewhere), but I don't have as much
> playtime now as I would like to have.
> 
> 
>>And someone mentioned that he's porting Mewa 
>>(http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/files/mewa.pdf) over to Ruby/Wee.
>>
>>I'm currently further on extracting and cleaning up the core of Wee, 
>>which is independent of HTTP and HTML, and includes only the component 
>>logic (the session logic is pretty minimal). Templating is 100% 
>>choosable, but it comes with a programmatical HTML generation API.
>>Lot's of parts of the source is now very clean, and all together it's 
>>1600 LoC (600 for the core where near to 50% is documention)... And all 
>>memory holes have been fixed.
> 
> 
> Looks very promising, Michael. I do hope that business will calm down
> a little over the holidays, so that I can catchup on my backlog, after
> which I could let it build up again by checking out Wee :-)

Hope at that time, Wee is in a much better shape.

Regards,

   Michael