From: thunk Date: 2010-04-11T06:35:06+09:00 Subject: Re: The Ruid Concept, with question On Apr 10, 4:12 pm, Seebs wrote: > On 2010-04-10, H- 16 wrote: > > > thunk wrote: > >> As for not existing, well, wanna bet?? > > Why would I bet someone who is obviously a cheater, and doesn't understand > how source code works? > > Post the project or don't.  If you don't, it doesn't exist. > > As they say on the internet:  Screenshot or it didn't happen. > > >> I'm serious, anybody really > >> smug and sure enough to take on  bet about this stuff???   It exists, > >> and it is doing work of a modest sort - but I cannot think why cannot > >> do much more. > > Possibly because it doesn't really exist, and doesn't really work, because > the person supposedly working on it can't actually complete a simple > declarative sentence in English, and thus presumably *does not know what > it supposedly is*? > > > And dude, you are talking like you're just here to annoy everyone. > > Ayup. > > > And I just looked through the site, and I'm still at a loss of why, and > > what a ruid is. In plan english... what exactly does it do? And please > > do'nt go way off topic. I'm practically begging you. http://trevoke.net/ruids/index.php?topic=5.0 Pretty much says it. It takes a part in a set of like classes (therefore the swarm). There are multiple Types but the "standard" type makes a few assertions, messages get attached (by the expert) and a conclusion gets reached (5 sections / 5 DSLs) The "big secret" to making some basic sense of the conclusions is that each Ruid has basic "categorization" - done into the Header section of the Ruid. THEY are simple - so they can be authored using nothing more than a "picklist" driven "expert session" which would be key part of a DEMO system (and must be Web based). And was done in WEE and tested and so on. The SWARM_READER is in charge of making sense of the "Image" made after the Ruids contact "Screens". Screens are about presenting information (like a patient record) to the Ruid. The Ru'id "docks" with a "HelperClass" - the HelperClass is something also used by Ruleby (the author is happy to report). The "HelperClasses" is where a "Ru'id Programmer must spend his/her effort. ================================= If you've followed along these terms are somewhat familiar. If not they may or may not make much sense but if I knew other terms I WOULD USE THEM. So I have "invented" what makes the very best sense to me - and adopted when I get clues - for example the term "Boid" is being carefully avoided. The term "Swarm" fits WAY too well, I am not giving that one up because the Ruids are executed in "Waves" - a 2nd wave can use the info deposited by the first Wave and so it goes. So, Seebs, is this making some sense now, or does this seem like something from another planet? This medium has limited utility, this type of thing is best done in conversation and I am sensitive to glazed looks, and can adjust. In this medium all I can do is blast my best effort out there and see the postings to tell me if folks think I'm crazy or not. If I could not hit f5 and see 200 or so do what they do, well, I guess I'd be wondering also..... and that's my run at it, here Thunk