From: "Jörg W Mittag" <JoergWMittag+Ruby@...>
Date: 2010-04-18T06:45:18+09:00
Subject: Re: Reading Ruby-Talk in Atom or RSS

steve ross wrote:
> On Apr 17, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Jörg W Mittag wrote:
> [...] The problem with Usenet
> -- actually, the problem with the lists I read -- is that many, if not
> most are not mirrored on Usenet. For e.g., I can't find any of the Google
> Groups like rSpec, Rails, Haml, etc. mirrored on Usenet.

Are you talking specifically about Google Groups or about those
projects' mailinglists? If the latter, try these:

	gmane.comp.lang.ruby.rspec.user

	gmane.comp.lang.ruby.rails

	gmane.comp.lang.ruby.rails.core

	gmane.comp.lang.ruby.rails.haml

All available on news.gmane.org.

But you are right: Google Groups is a problem. (Which is a shame,
considering that it started out as a friggin' Usenet archive in the
first place. The fact that a Usenet archive closes off its archives
from the Usenet would be pretty hilarious if it wasn't so damn
annoying.)

I'm not sure whether you can add Google Groups to GMANE and whether
that is even allowed by Google Groups' Terms Of Service.
 
> I will grant you that threading works infinitely better in a Usenet
> reader. But, again, many of the lists I read are syndicated via RSS
> or Atom and not mirrored to Usenet :(

You can mirror all mailinglists to Usenet via GMANE. GMANE even
understands the protocols of many of the popular listmanagers so that
it can automatically subscribe and unsubscribe, for example.

jwm