From: thunk Date: 2010-04-02T09:20:07+09:00 Subject: Re: Its a bird, its a plane, its.. um, an Attribute based System? absolute last word from me forever on this as things are.... my lessons: 1. While the TOPIC still seems appropriate to a Ruby Discussions group, the Medium is not "conducive" to communicating on a bigger project. 2. I have developed my own (tarzan) vocabulary to deal with a non- trivial problem based on what I have seen that seems to fit best, without reading about this or having anybody to chat about. 3. Using phrases that mean other things to people that are in authority is not a good way to start any conversation, damage gets done, impressions get made, and it can almost only spiral down from that point 4.I have NO idea what a "troll" is in your context, you have no idea what I'm tryng to say by "black box" in mine. 5. Setting up a wiki at GitHub is many times less painless than I thought, I really should have done that FIRST - but in my defense I had no idea what I was going to learn here. 6. You guys are wonderful and smart and all and have limited time and focus and want to see what you need to see in a posting. I bought a Book on Symphony that was written by the author that must have been 200 pages, I'm not sure that what has to happen to accomplish what I know I have accomplished will not require any less.... perhaps more.... 7. Open source has an attitude of "show me your source" and any situation that does not fit this mold can become one of suspicion. ( Thats something really new to me, I'm here because of RUBY, and my "PickAx book" and a few IRCs with Gurus was all I needed for 3 years, I din't know this group existed. ) 8 forum "politics" is not new to me, but the system of "Rank" here seems less fragmented than I had expected. Human swarms are always interesting. Mr Davis used exactly the timing, and exactly decisive manner that I would use to shut down a "young turk" if I was in a position of authority. (Breaking of rank at this point would take some balls.) thunk is off to discover vinland, you guys "win"