From: thunk Date: 2010-04-07T03:40:06+09:00 Subject: Re: ThunkGen released! Aldric, This won't go on. I have no more interest in writing to a black-hole, than you guys have to read stuff from one. OK? This IS a ruby 'issue" in so far as it probably only possible in Ruby in such a tight little pack. OK from what others have told me about Python and so (functions vs methods) that would not have been possible. I would be HAPPY to forget about communicating, really, it is eating up too much of my time too. However, "what ever this is" that was created to "blast folks" shopping baskets is bigger than that. If I wasn't as experienced I would not have confidence to say things about 100,000 ru'ids when I only have 200 or so. OK? The question of to "framework or not to framework" IS NOT really the question I have - as much as "How could this contribute to the 'greatest good'. You can believe ol' thunk or not on that, but if ol' thunk was motivated by money. ol' thunk just learned that the least imaginative, slowest witted\, most political creation in his bevy of programmers to be is not in charge of all things quality for Mititoyo. The Hong-kong PHD he had working on the project went to MS and is doing something out there.... he went off to sail and program in Smalltalk. Ruby rather is.... you know... has done it right. The world does strange things to people, I did ceramics and ran with artists - and in that world being called "normal" would be like you guys calling me BatShit crazy. They are different worlds but some of us have never been anything but artists to start with... go figure. I can SEE worksheets being produced by 2 swarms of these things. I have this (Meise) - lowly / route to a few dollars route planned out that is 90% and a lot of work. I see much much much more powerful things to be done, and I am 100% prepared to share 100% but I am not willing to put the code up on a github and have people ask me why it doesn't run on JRuby2.3x on his Linux dkjfkd os after he did this.. how incredibly unrewarding would that be? BUT ol thunk has picked up a lot, the "actor" thing (which he remembers evaluating for McGraw-hill way back in some early manifestation??) fits fairly well. But from recording "Events" in factories for years - like Toyota (??) in England, John Deere plants, HP, and such as those he can see somethings - and let ol' thunk tellya they ain't "reports" - read the Nurf thing if gitHub coughs it back up - but (we) all think that makes it much clearer than anything written before, once you see it, it will be obvious, there's a ahha thing that seems to happen. But the weather is clear and beautiful and sky is BLUE on the other side of that moment. the gang