[#383997] CORE - Alternative Variable Substitution — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
ruby 1.9
On 1 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 12:12, Peter Hickman <peterhickman...@googlemail.com>
On 1 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 16:22, Robert Klemme <shortcut...@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:25:25 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
[#384020] instance variable in pseudo-global scope — Chad Perrin <code@...>
As I understand things:
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:
[#384029] minitest 2.2.2 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>
minitest version 2.2.2 has been released!
[#384051] CORE - Replace "if __FILE__ == $0" with "executed?" — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
The construct to detect execution of the file (in order to launch main
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:30:27 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 10:51:46PM +0900, Peter Zotov wrote:
[#384072] Behaviour of different Proc types — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...>
I realized that I just can't ever remember the different proc types
[#384085] Best way to replace hash keys — Alex Allmont <Alex.Allmont@...>
What is the most optimal and neatest way to replace keys in a hash given a =
[#384104] CORE - Altering Behaviour of "each do" (default param "item") — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
1.9
Probably not without changing Ruby itself.
Actually it would be possible, although very ugly.
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:50:00PM +0900, James Gray wrote:
On 5 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 17:19, Matthias W=C3=A4chter <matth...@waech=
Hi,
Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
2011/6/7 J=C3=B6rg W Mittag <JoergWMittag+Ruby@googlemail.com>
On 6 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 01:11, Yukihiro Matsumoto <m...@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
On Monday, June 06, 2011 03:35:30 AM Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
On 06.06.2011 16:57, David Masover wrote:
On 6 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 01:11, Yukihiro Matsumoto <m...@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Hi,
On 6 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 12:24, Yukihiro Matsumoto <m...@ruby-lang.or=
On 8 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 08:06, David Masover <ni...@slaphack.com> wr=
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrot=
[#384208] Ruby 1.9 Time parse question — Paul <tester.paul@...>
Hi there!
[#384219] how to repackage a ruby gem. — William Liu <william.weih@...>
Hi All,
[#384228] a little challenge - reproduce this error — Intransition <transfire@...>
Want to see a really amazing error I got this week? Okay... but to
throw NameError.new("uninitialized constant X::Foo::X")
This is a pretty trivial error to generate. Just reference the
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Christopher Dicely wrote:
On Jun 8, 10:56=A0am, Christopher Dicely <cmdic...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
> I realize now maybe how I should have phrased this as a challenge
On Jun 9, 1:22=A0pm, John Feminella <jo...@bitsbuilder.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
[#384262] Where is the #hash method defined? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>
Hi, any object in Ruby has the method #hash which returns an integer
> I cannot find which class or module #hash method belongs to. I
[#384273] Anyone compiled VIM 7.3 with 1.9.2 support? — Ned <rails.nerd@...>
Hi
[#384279] CORE - Literal Instantiation breaks Object Model — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
class String
[#384280] BARRIER - require "rubygems" — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
ruby 1.9.2p180 Windows 7
On 11 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:30, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
[#384283] Classic Computer Science Books — Stu <stu@...>
I wanted to start a thread discussion on classic computer science
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Stu <stu@rubyprogrammer.net> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:22:58AM +0900, Josh Cheek wrote:
Thank you for the responses. I look forward to reading others.
> queue to read Meyers C++ books and Crockford's Javascript: The Good
Hello Anurag
Hey Stu,
Wow, those are a lot of books, as a beginner programmer, I don't have
There is a classic series online called "How to Think Like a Computer Scien=
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Stu <stu@rubyprogrammer.net> wrote:
On 10.06.2011 00:18, Stu wrote:
The Design and Construction of Compilers, Robin Hunter, John Wiley &
[#384322] PSA: Ilias is Crazy — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>
I guess I have to post this periodically since our population is growing =
On 6/10/2011 12:41 PM, Ryan Davis wrote:
Since this has escalated to giving the guy a thread with his name in
[#384363] RFC - One word alias for require_relative — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
This is a simple Request for Comments.
On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 19:45, "Matthew K. Williams" <m...@harpstar.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
Back in the blissful days before I understood the `$LOAD_PATH` or the
On 15 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 22:26, Florian Gilcher <f...@andersground.net> wrote:
On 15 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 22:58, Michael Edgar <ad...@carboni.ca> wrote:
On 15 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 23:22, Michael Edgar <ad...@carboni.ca> wrote:
On 11 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:35, Ilias Lazaridis <il...@lazaridis.com> wrote:
On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 17:29, Matt Harrison <iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com> wro=
On 16/06/2011 16:10, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:26, Matt Harrison <iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com> wro=
On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 21:24, Jason Roelofs <jameskil...@gmail.com=
involve
On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 23:45, Adam Prescott <a...@aprescott.com> w=
On 11 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:35, Ilias Lazaridis <il...@lazaridis.com> wrote:
On 17 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 21:17, Gary Wright <gwtm...@mac.com> wrote:
2011/6/17 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Christopher Dicely <cmdicely@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, June 20, 2011 09:17:51 AM Adam Prescott wrote:
On 17 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 23:15, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
2011/6/17 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
2011/6/17 Salk Pugh-Pitt <salk.pughpitt@gmail.com>
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:32 PM, A. Stroh Turph <astroh.turph@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Salk Pugh-Pitt <salk.pughpitt@gmail.com>wrote:
On 11 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:35, Ilias Lazaridis <il...@lazaridis.com> wrote:
Hi,
On 18 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 02:30, Yukihiro Matsumoto <m...@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
On 19 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 19:44, David Masover <ni...@slaphack.com> w=
On Sunday, June 19, 2011 12:20:28 PM Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
On 21 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 21:55, I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo <i...@aliax.=
[#384375] sequel question: Where's SQLite? — Chad Perrin <code@...>
So . . . I need to get the Sequel gem working with SQLite on a Debian
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Mike Moore <blowmage@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 05:57:42AM +0900, Mike Moore wrote:
[#384432] commit message conventions — Intransition <transfire@...>
When I write commit messages I add a "team" prefix to the message,
I greatly dislike that style, to be frank. My commit messages usually
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:58 AM, John Feminella <johnf@bitsbuilder.com> wro=
On Jun 13, 9:13=A0am, brab...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed. Reference the ticket, which can hold all the data about what
[#384444] Hi rubies — medarkness arkness <rotakinrof@...>
[#384453] Regexp.match(line) question — m b <snert@...>
[#384467] A way to find out when a constant gets defined? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...>
Hi, I'd like to be able to find out when a constant gets defined. I think I
> but the Bundler team
Okay, I think I found the ultimate source of the problem was that RVM said
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:
[#384473] ruby-oci8 2.0.6 — Kubo Takehiro <kubo@...>
Ruby-oci8 2.0.6 is released. This is the Oracle module using OCI8 API.
[#384490] Messages to Ruby List/Forum/etc. not arriving equally? — Markus Fischer <markus@...>
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Markus Fischer <markus@fischer.name> wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:28 AM, Markus Fischer <markus@fischer.name> wrote:
http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/2440238#1018634 arrived in the mailing list
[#384494] Plugin best practices — Intransition <transfire@...>
If your making a plugin/extension for another project, do you create a
[#384500] CORE - Inconsistent Handling of Uninitialized Variables — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
puts "\n== Testin in MAIN Context =="
On 15 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 21:05, Michael Edgar <ad...@carboni.ca> wrote:
On Jun 19, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Gary Wright wrote:
[#384521] queues? inotify? anything else? — Matt Harrison <iwasinnamuknow@...>
I don't even really know how to describe this problem. I know what I
[#384532] Kernel#autoload vs require_relative — Piotr Szotkowski <chastell@...>
I understand that for require to work relative to the given __FILE__=E2=80=
Ryan Davis:
On Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:50:57 AM Piotr Szotkowski wrote:
[#384579] win32-service gem — Daniel Stephens <danny.a.stephens@...>
Hey all, has anyone been able to use win32-service-0.7.0.gem. when I try to
[#384617] get execution name of program — Chad Perrin <code@...>
Either $0 or __FILE__ will return a filename to give context for how a
On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 03:03:50AM +0900, Michael Edgar wrote:
On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:
[#384634] default config file location — Chad Perrin <code@...>
Is there a "better" way to specify a default config file location than
Chad Perrin:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011, Chad Perrin wrote:
On 6/17/2011 14:45, Matthew K. Williams wrote:
[#384648] celluloid 0.0.3: a concurrent object framework for Ruby — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...>
Celluloid is a concurrent object framework for Ruby inspired by Erlang
On Friday, June 17, 2011 03:21:48 PM Tony Arcieri wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2011 05:54:35 PM Tony Arcieri wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com> wrote:
[#384650] Threadsafing a mixin module without using self.new or initialize. — Mike Bethany <mikbe.tk@...>
Threadsafing a mixin module without using self.new or initialize.
[#384687] how would you set dynamically determined dependencies with or without bundler? — Jarmo Pertman <jarmo.p@...>
Hi!
[#384697] test scope issue — Chad Perrin <code@...>
My tests are broken. I generally suck at writing tests, so please bear
[#384742] What about Object#to_ruby ? — Bernard Lambeau <blambeau@...>
Hi!
I believe pry has this kind of thing: https://github.com/banister/pry
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Bernard Lambeau <blambeau@gmail.com> wrote:
[#384763] MIDASWAD - Matz is Dumb and so We are Dumb — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
(public draft)
Before anyone engages this nonsense . . .
On 20 Jun 2011 20:32, "Chad Perrin" <code@apotheon.net> wrote:
Five posts in on this thread, and four of them are the self appointed
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Sam Duncan <sduncan@wetafx.co.nz> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 23:08, Sam Duncan <sduncan@wetafx.co.nz> wrote:
A quick, lazy response, because I shouldn't feed trolls anyway, and I simply
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 23:52, David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 13:37, Adam Prescott <adam@aprescott.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 14:51, Adam Prescott <adam@aprescott.com> wrote:
[#384784] REWORK - Task: Unify behaviour of by-literal-instantiated Objects — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
(Note: This task is part of the RUBY REWORK, which has (among other
[#384800] How to order a hash based on its keys? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>
Hi, I want to order a hash using itds keys:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:34 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote=
2011/6/21 Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>:
2011/6/21 I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:34 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote=
2011/6/22 Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:50 AM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrot=
2011/6/22 Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:47 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote=
2011/6/22 Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:19 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote=
2011/6/22 Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:11 AM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrot=
2011/6/23 Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:42 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote=
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:50 AM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrot=
[#384801] Once click, one (OO) life... — DavCori80 <davcori80@...>
Hi everyone,
[#384819] Gateway Shutting Down — James Gray <james@...>
Rubyists:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:47 AM, James Gray <james@graysoftinc.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Martin DeMello
[#384863] vlad 2.2.1 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>
vlad version 2.2.1 has been released!
2011/6/23 Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com>:
[#384864] Ruby embed called from a pthread — Luiz Angelo Daros de Luca <luizluca@...>
Hello guys,
[#384873] Explicitly setting compiler to C++ in extconf.rb... — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...>
I'm trying to setup a Ruby gem that bundles the Swig-generated bindings
Darryl L. Pierce escreveu isso a=ED:
On Jun 23, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
On 06/23/2011 07:39 PM, Michael Edgar wrote:
[#384891] Honoring #to_ary and such — Intransition <transfire@...>
Well, for about the first time I am writing a library that has to be
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
[#384901] Symbol#=== — Intransition <transfire@...>
As:
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
[#384907] SPDX (and the glazing of ones eyes) — Intransition <transfire@...>
Never ceases to amaze me how complicated "enterprisey" peoples can
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:11=A0am, Josh Cheek <josh.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 04:41:06AM +0900, Intransition wrote:
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
On Jun 25, 11:54=A0am, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
[#384927] Single Responsibility Question — Mike Bethany <mikbe.tk@...>
I'm trying to figure out who's responsible for a resource.
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Mike Bethany <mikbe.tk@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Robert, you always have excellent feedback.
[#384931] Rubicle, the unofficial Ruby mascot, released — info@...
Hello! We are rubicle.net administrators. We have released Rubicle, the UNOFFICIAL
So this is Ruby-tan? (ala http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-tan)
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@gmail.com>wrote:
[#384945] unicorn 4.0.0 - Rack HTTP server for fast clients and Unix — Eric Wong <normalperson@...>
Unicorn is an HTTP server for Rack applications designed to only serve
[#384950] Understanding Threading... — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...>
I'm working on a use case where I need to spawn a thread that handles a
[#384976] clock-scheduled operations — Chad Perrin <code@...>
Obviously, scheduling something to happen every foo seconds is easy.
[#384982] here docs: WTF am i doing wrong??? — serialhex <serialhex@...>
ok, so i'm trying to create a here doc for a little program i'm writing and
[#384996] A movie Renamer — Mayank Kohaley <mayank.kohaley@...>
Hello Guys,
Please don't steal movies.
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 06:17:55AM +0900, Sam Duncan wrote:
*sigh*
Really didn't want to get into this, especially since it seems like everyone
[#385002] Specifying non-standard include/lib directories on gem install... — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...>
Is it possible to specific non-standard directories when installing a
[#385019] A File Renamer — Mayank Kohaley <mayank.kohaley@...>
I guess this thread has spawned another issue. Let me close this and say I
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Mayank Kohaley
> Is there a pattern to the file names you are working with? The key is
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Johnny Morrice <spoon@killersmurf.com>wrote:
You should be aware that meta data can't be trusted. Not only do people not
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Mike Bethany <mikbe.tk@gmail.com> wrote:
MIDASWAD - Matz is Dumb and so We are Dumb
(public draft) I've notice several people mentioning something like "Matz is nice and so we are nice" (MINASWAN). MINASWAN - Sounds like Japanese. Japanese, like Mr. Yukihiro Matsumoto (Matz), the ruby language designer is. - And so I started wondering about this here: MIDASWAD - Matz is Dumb and so We are Dumb - If "Matz" would act like a Moron (in context of language-design), would this mean that the "We's" would act like moron's, too? An example: If Mr. Matsumoto applies "Design by Egoism", then he is "Dumb" (in context of language-design, not as an individual of course). The reasoning is simple: you cannot design a consistent OO language if you apply "Design by Egoism". If you ignore logic and reason, just because it happens that you have some warm feelings for a construct (or person), and cold feelings for another one, then you apply "Design by Egoism". And this will slowly degrade the language. If the so called "We's" (whatever this is) would follow this paradigm, then they would be "dumb", too - (again, in context of language- design, not as individuals of course). Does Mr. Matsumoto apply "Design by Egoism"? - I am not sure yet, although some issues indicate this. [1] It's his language, one will say, he has the right to do so. Well, it's possibly his language, but there is something more: Honour! It's a matter of honour to respect the people which depend on the language. If the main design goals are directed by Egoism, then soon or later, the language system will collapse. It will not be able to withstand the requirements of modern applications, and will slowly fade away. It's a matter of honour, to use the "Reality of Logic" for design decisions, if people depend on you. This can be one small individual, which feeds his family based on the work with the language. This can be a large language-subsystem, like a web-framework implemented on top of the language. - Rails. Ruby on Rails has brought many people to ruby. It pop's around in my mind as "The Windows 3.1x of Web-Development-Frameworks". I don't know exactly why. Now, it seems that the "Ruby on Rails" framework has raised the requirements to the language system ruby. It seems that it tries to achieve more than ruby can provide. The possible reasons are: * Rails is so powerful * Rails is badly designed * The designer has simply chosen the wrong language to place "on Rails". What is clear is, that this framework *requires* much from ruby - and the Main Ruby Implementation (MRI, Matsumutos Ruby Implementation) starts buckling. Several new interpreters "pop out of nowhere". There's a "professional edition" of ruby, other companies implement specialized versions with new garbage-collectors, and who knows how many "hidden" ones. Others make the "scalability dictated" move to the beloved Java Language. And others take the "in between solution": Ruby On Java On Rails. What a contradiction! Shouting on Java, and then using Java as the foundation to execute the "better" language, JRuby, and the "better" web-framework. Anyway. - Diversity. People say "Ruby encourages diversity". This is of course nonsense. The people around ruby always manage to serve a weakness as something positive, as something special. And this happens sometimes with professionalism (possible due to the advertisement/design companies/ people which came in touch with ruby). But I say "Ruby encourages diversity" means in reality "they *fail* to coordinate efforts into one project". I say that ruby has started to degrade long time ago, and will continue to degrade, that's why companies build custom versions of the interpreter. It's most possibly a matter of "Design by Egoism" - either that of Mr. Matsumoto's, or that of the "New Implementation of the Ruby Language" side (or perhaps both). They may should take a look at: Oracle & IBM & Others - large scale companies, which manage to cooperate (because they realize they *have* to join efforts). Not that the eclipse-project is a masterpiece of liberality, but at least there are processes. The companies surrounding ruby *fail* to do so. They do not cooperate efficiently, the do not focus efforts into main-line-ruby, they do not organize and strengthen the development processes, they to not criticize and judge in the way they should, to encourage evolution. In the Ruby and the Rails domain, you see "big" names in the sponsor list of conferences and events. But you don't see those companies *collaborate* efficiently where it is most important: on the language level. It seems like egoism is valued more the collaborative achievement and technical excellence. And of course Politics. Politics everywhere, throughout the language system, an even the "Rebels" (see e.g. "Rails is a Ghetto") are finally nothing else the egocentric politicians, which just shouted out stuff when they left - instead of staying, shouting and fighting when they were part of the language-system. This is what ruby is about: Egoism and Politics. - And then this "Community Myth". I know that the people which write here publicly are *not* the so called "community". The population of the language-system "Ruby" consists first of all from the thousands of users which do *not* write here. They use the language, e.g. to write glue-code for their applications, to control a small part of a film-production, a pre-processor, a quick- prototype or something that I can't even imagine. They are far to busy to get distracted by writing on public media and dealing with the... Freak-Show! The "freak-show" (a few regulars on a list, which give the impressions that they *are* the community). A few regulars, which have no sense for their own limits. And a few spineless followers which have not personal opinion at all. A few regulars and some followers, personalities which are weak down to the bones, which gain strength only in an herd - like hyenas, which do not respect the *rights* of an individual, the freedom of expression, the freedom of choice (e.g. to *not* read, to filter) and which do not realize that they are both, a shame and a *damage* to the language-system. - This is *not* the community. This is just the "Freak-Show", which every language system has, more or less. - Professionals. So, where are the professionals, which focus on the technical essence and which know that language-evolution has not much to do with politics and "freak-shows" or "liking each other" and all this nonsense? Professionals which know, that giving to much priority to such values will degrade the language-system. Professionals which know, that a major part of core-level software- development is about analysing and abstracting things. - If you like to confirm my sayings, but you don't want to do it publicly, please feel free to contact me with private email. - [1] Literal Instantiation breaks Object Model http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/4893 Provide Class#cb_object_instantiated_from_literal(object) http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/4845 Unify Variable Expansion within Strings http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/4877 . -- http://lazaridis.com