From: Ryan Davis Date: 2011-06-12T05:12:57+09:00 Subject: Re: PSA: Ilias is Crazy On Jun 11, 2011, at 02:14 , Stu wrote: > Since this has escalated to giving the guy a thread with his name in the title; would someone mind linking some of his more prolific trolling. [...] A lot of examples have been pointed out in this thread for recent cases. You can google for the older ones. > Telling people not to respond to someone sounds like some sort of > elitist click or beginning of an association fallacy. It also proves a > lack of diplomacy, tolerance, and empathy from those imposing such a > ridiculous crusade. I'm merely trying to shape the traffic on this list in a way that creates the community we want to have (as described in another email I just sent, so I won't go into that further). In some cases, no amount of diplomacy, tolerance, or empathy will help. I believe this is one of them. I can respect that you don't appreciate my suggested method, but I don't think that having a community that we can participate in and enjoy is a ridiculous crusade. Go back in the mailing list archives and see how much Ilias can destabilize this list if you don't believe me or in my methods. Comp.lang.lisp demonstrated that shunning Ilias worked for them. If you don't approve of shunning, suggest something better and show that it works.