Re: CORE - Altering Behaviour of "each do" (default param "item")

On Wednesday, June 08, 2011 01:20:26 PM Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
> On 8 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 21:00, Phillip Gawlowski <[e-mail]>
> > > Has anyone asked *how* he'd react? =20
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> Why should they ask? It's much more fun to let the paranoia do the

In other words, you mention laws that seem relevant (until I do five minute=
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of research), and that you'll have to "take action".

You see this as "not a threat", yet you admit, right here, that you don't=20
clarify things because it's "more fun to let paranoia do the..." something.=
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What, do the work of convincing us that it's a legal threat?

It seems pretty clear that your intention was for people to interpret this =
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a legal threat. I see only two possible interpretations: Either you actuall=
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do intend to threaten (or at least intimidate) people with the force of law=
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or you only make it seem as though you would do so because it's fun to see =
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people react.

So, either you are genuinely making legal threats, or you are by definition=
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troll. Now that is fun.

> > > I'm curious about what sort of
> > > reaction is even possible in this case.
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> There are several options, but you cannot uncover them.
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> I react already, but until they realize how, it'll be too late.

Well, that's ominous. Looks like you've dropped from legal threats to vague=
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unspecified threats. I'm quaking in my little boots.

Here's the funniest part:

> > It's buried in the thread, but Ilias threatens (emptily, so far) to
> > sue whoever is pointing out his trollish nature.
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> So much miss-information in just one sentence - just fascination!

I suppose some of it might be, but it seems pretty obvious that either you =
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make exactly those threats, or you are exactly a troll. At least one of the=
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things is true, as you've demonstrated here.

> But now it's really time to close this thread.

I might exit it as well, though. Ilias is far less productive to talk to th=
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the most clueless newbie, the most diehard religious fundamentalist, or the=
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most stubbornly dogmatic zealot of any kind. What makes him so frustrating =
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that despite initiating the conversation (by, for example, asking a questio=
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he tends to outright dismiss any responses, rather than actually argue agai=
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them.

Most of his responses, and nearly all of the responses to anything I wrote,=
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fall into these categories:

 - Unfounded assertions.
 - "Summarizing" (read: strawmanning) messages with little sentence fragmen=
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summaries, and then either ignoring it or responding to the strawman.
 - Telling us what to do or how to respond, as if he owns the group or thre=
ad.
 - Threats.
 - TL;DR.

There's also the most recent, isolated case of sarcastically repeating my=20
message without once pointing out what makes it so ridiculous.

Every now and then, perhaps every five or ten messages, I actually get a=20
response to my point, and it's a fantastically poor response -- like earlie=
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in this thread where he actually responded, once, to my observation that th=
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Wikipedia article seems to be removed for notability reasons, rather than=20
personal attack. The response was to take a quote from the page I linked to=
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out of context.

When I put it back in context, he gets sarcastic and reminds me that he=20
doesn't take me seriously, and we're back to this crap. So there's almost a=
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discussion going on, but the signal-to-noise ratio is just impossible.

I doubt his response to this message will be any different. In fact, I'd be=
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money he doesn't read this far -- TL;DR again. The killfile option is=20
definitely looking more attractive all the time.