From: Stu <stu@...>
Date: 2011-06-11T18:14:17+09:00
Subject: Re: PSA: Ilias is Crazy

Since this has escalated to giving the guy a thread with his name in
the title; would someone mind linking some of his more prolific
trolling. Any hijacked threads? Common trollish behavior such as
insult a person directly. T

his "Ilias is Crazy" is becoming bit trite. I also think it's a bit
arrogant to single out and ostracize someone. I don't know if this
person has mental issues or not. It also does not matter.

He definitely has an abrasive way of expressing himself but far be it
for me to judge him based on his lack of socialization.

Telling people not to respond to someone sounds like some sort of
elitist click or beginning of an association fallacy. It also proves a
lack of diplomacy, tolerance, and empathy from those imposing such a
ridiculous crusade.

I agree with the poster above if some silly auto-email "llias warning"
becomes tied to the sign-up  or mail daemon I'd be extremely set back.
Something like that as well as this thread also reinforces the ad
hominem since you have issued a scarlet letter for the man.

From where I'm sitting he seems "Mostly Harmless".

Think about the community proverb: Matz is nice, so we are nice.

From my observations this entails these idioms:

Matz does not alienate llias, So neither should I
Matz practices tolerance, So shall I
Matz is diplomatic, So am I

~Stu

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Walton Hoops <me@waltonhoops.com> wrote:
> On 6/10/2011 12:41 PM, Ryan Davis wrote:
>> http://www.zenspider.com/Languages/Ruby/IliasIsCrazy.html
>>
> From that site:
>> Here is what I suggest. Create a mail signature or reply template with
>> advice to ignore Ilias and no longer respond to him. *Every* time
>> someone responds to him, email that person with the standard response.
>> If enough people pick this up, and every time someone responds to
>> Ilias they get 10+ form letters asking them not to, it should do a
>> quick enough job of discouraging further threads.
>
> I truly hope no one takes that advice.  If I get 10+ of these things
> spammed to my inbox because I tried to help someone, it's not Ilias who
> will wind up on my blacklist, it's the spammers.  Respond in thread
> *once* if you must but spamming someones inbox for that is just
> jack-assery.  Especially considering the target of your animosity has
> had 4 of 8 issues accepted (and 2 still being discussed, 1 which IMO is
> a good idea).
>
> As I've said previously, I don't like Ilias, but that doesn't mean that
> nothing he has to say is valid or worth discussing.  And if he really is
> this bad, nature will run it's course and soon everyone will ignore him
> naturally.  It already seems like the Ilias stuff has dropped off
> substantially.
>
> Personally, I wish we could get MINSWAN(Matz is nice, so we are nice)
> back as a community, but that seems to have fallen by the wayside.
> Spamming some poor soul for trying to answer a question is certainly not
> nice.
>
>