From: Conrad Schneiker <schneiker@...>
Date: 2000-03-04T15:01:42-06:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:01719] Ruby GUIs

((comp.lang.misc + cc: ruby-lang ML))

[Changed title to better reflect current topic.]

From: Clemens Hintze <c.hintze@gmx.net>
....
> Conrad Schneiker writes:
....
> > Good try--except that FLTK is leftover from an abandoned project and
seems
>
> Uh?!? I thought, I know the history (the official one!). Was it
> changed last year? :-/

Just what I got reading their home page some time ago. They should let you
revise it for them!
....
> They work on drastic improvements that would lead to
> FLTK 2.

OK, I'll wait and see.

You (among other people and other things) have convinced me not to work on
any cross-platform GUI stuff for time being, whether FLTK or wxWindows.

The main "other thing" is that I finally have a working Ruby GUI on one of
two types of systems that I use a lot, where Tk didn't work. I am now able
to use Ruby/GTK on AIX 4.3 with precompiled gtk+, and it (or at least all
the demos I've tried) work great.

:-(   ---->   8-)))

I may also try to see if I can get gtk+ and Ruby/GTK working on Windows NT 4
as well.

(Even if the Tk problems I encountered were fixed on both platforms, after
seeing Ruby/GTK, I don't think I would ever want to go back to Tk.)

> > Would you, Matz, and other people support putting Ruby/GTK in the
standard
> > distribution?
>
> I would use Ruby/GTK instead of wxWindows if I have a choice! But if
> the Ruby/FLTK extension is ready, I will forget all the other and use
> this; regardless of what is default GUI in Ruby ;-)))

That's fine with me, but this last question wasn't a question about default
Ruby GUI. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

This is just a question about whether the Ruby/GTK module could be included
as part of standard distribution. Then, if (when/more) Linux venders (and
other Unix vendors that supported GTK) were to include Ruby like most do
with Perl and more are doing with Python, then users would be able to run
Ruby/GTK programs out of the box, without downloading and building and
installing additional stuff. (I'd also support the same thing for FLTK2 if
it turns out like you expect.)

Conrad