[#319108] Iterator objects and lazy evaluation — Yuh-Ruey Chen <maian330@...>

Two questions:

14 messages 2008/11/01

[#319117] Poor performance of Ruby 1.8.7 when installed with MacPorts — abc <arcadiorubiogarcia@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2008/11/01

[#319176] Ruby for Philosophers — Sebastian Torena <citizenkant@...>

Hi there,

14 messages 2008/11/02

[#319196] ruby1.9: lazy versions of Enumerator#select and friends? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...>

I've been having a play with Enumerators in ruby 1.9, in particular

12 messages 2008/11/02

[#319239] Rake task for building latex? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...>

Does anyone know whether there's a rake task to build latex files, including

10 messages 2008/11/03

[#319319] Ruby's take on S.O.L.I.D. — Mike Lopke <reglopke@...>

I'm curious about everyone's take on Bob Martin's S.O.L.I.D. design

16 messages 2008/11/03

[#319401] Combination of numbers in an array that add up to x — Hae Lee <hae.lee.subscription@...>

Objective: Find list of values in an array that adds up to a specific

17 messages 2008/11/04

[#319404] Showing a spinner ? — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...>

How do I show a spinner on the command line interface when a ruby script

13 messages 2008/11/04

[#319440] What would you like to know about JRuby? — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>

Tom Enebo and I are putting together our JRuby presentation for

22 messages 2008/11/04

[#319532] What's the Best Way to Mimic an HTTP Request? — Daniel Miessler <daniel@...>

I'm trying to write a tool that will take a domain as an argument and

10 messages 2008/11/05

[#319546] Ruby has a Face that it wears on its feet — "Jayson Williams" <williams.jayson@...>

In my opinion, Ruby's official face should be Shoes. Shoes gives Ruby

17 messages 2008/11/05
[#319553] Re: Ruby has a Face that it wears on its feet — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/11/05

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Jayson Williams

[#319576] how to quickly find a string towards the end of a large io object — bwv549 <jtprince@...>

How do I scan starting at the end of a big io object to find a string

12 messages 2008/11/06

[#319702] Sudoku Generator (#182) — Matthew Moss <matt@...>

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14 messages 2008/11/07

[#319769] implementing mvc - using observer pattern - beginner to OOP — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Hi I started making a simple command line todo list application as a way

10 messages 2008/11/08

[#319770] what's easiest way to compare a Float & BigDecimal (i.e. like a equals mechanism) — "Greg Hauptmann" <greg.hauptmann.ruby@...>

Hi,

8 messages 2008/11/08

[#319835] Moving large amount of files, 1.750.000+ — Sebastian Newstream <abeansits@...>

Hello fellow Rubyists!

15 messages 2008/11/09
[#319837] Re: Moving large amount of files, 1.750.000+ — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/11/09

On 09.11.2008 18:04, Sebastian Newstream wrote:

[#319861] Notepad++ (no debug output, using XP) — Ed Hardy <asm.sol@...>

Notepad++ seems to be a great editor for Ruby, in XP Windows. However,

13 messages 2008/11/10

[#319902] Problem with object methods? — Carter Davis <theshakrah@...>

I recently made an object for a game I'm making. It uses the constructor

16 messages 2008/11/10
[#319908] Re: Problem with object methods? — Hugh Sasse <hgs@...> 2008/11/10

[#319911] Re: Problem with object methods? — Carter Davis <theshakrah@...> 2008/11/10

Okay, I made an example.

[#320057] Convert text string i.e 'Peter' into integer ID — Justus Ohlhaver <ohlhaver@...>

Hello,

23 messages 2008/11/12

[#320101] Issue with block and getting to local variables — Tarek Other <cashew250@...>

Ok I'm new to ruby and want to do the following, I want to define a

12 messages 2008/11/12

[#320103] Need tutoring on using a path environment variable — dkmd_nielsen <donn@...>

I don't know what to do. I have an environment variable, PW_PATH,

11 messages 2008/11/12

[#320135] '#' characters are breaking my regexp — Max Williams <toastkid.williams@...>

I'm trying to build a regexp that includes music notes, eg Bb or C#.

14 messages 2008/11/13

[#320202] Highline - question with multiple choices — szimek <szimek@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2008/11/14
[#320208] Re: Highline - question with multiple choices — James Gray <james@...> 2008/11/14

On Nov 14, 2008, at 4:23 AM, szimek wrote:

[#320270] Re: Highline - question with multiple choices — szimek <szimek@...> 2008/11/15

On 14 Lis, 14:52, James Gray <ja...@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#320213] Unit Conversion (#183) — Matthew Moss <matt@...>

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37 messages 2008/11/14

[#320280] IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — Chad Perrin <perrin@...>

I'm working on something that operates on each line of a file

22 messages 2008/11/15
[#320283] Re: IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — Tim Hunter <TimHunter@...> 2008/11/15

Chad Perrin wrote:

[#320286] Re: IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — Chad Perrin <perrin@...> 2008/11/15

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 02:27:45AM +0900, Tim Hunter wrote:

[#320287] Re: IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — "Michael Guterl" <mguterl@...> 2008/11/15

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:

[#320288] Re: IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — "Michael Guterl" <mguterl@...> 2008/11/15

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Michael Guterl <mguterl@gmail.com> wrote:

[#320359] Why does tmail stop my CGI script form working? — Chad Perrin <perrin@...>

I decided to try TMail for the back end of a new contact page on a

14 messages 2008/11/17

[#320370] How can I overload a method in Ruby — Zhao Yi <youhaodeyi@...>

This is my class definition:

19 messages 2008/11/17
[#320374] Re: How can I overload a method in Ruby — Einar Magn俍 Boson <einarmagnus@...> 2008/11/17

there is no overloading, only overriding.

[#320417] How to extract links of a particular class type — "Sita Rami Reddy" <sitaramireddy@...>

I have a web page which has n number of links.

11 messages 2008/11/17

[#320446] function to select only certain key/value pairs from hash? — Aryk Grosz <tennisbum2002@...>

Whenever Im coding I usually come across having to create a new hash

14 messages 2008/11/17

[#320482] I don't like specs, should I change my point of view ? — Zouplaz <user@...>

Hello, I'm not trolling. I don't like specs (RSpec) : everytime I had a

18 messages 2008/11/18

[#320500] Should is the new Must? — Trans <transfire@...>

Why did 'should' become the going nomenclature of BDD framworks?

21 messages 2008/11/18

[#320553] Syntax question from a newbie to Ruby — David Spitzer <davidspitzer@...>

I am just learning Ruby and I can not seem to see why the first example

12 messages 2008/11/18

[#320655] build hash by iterating — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>

I am building a hash this way:

15 messages 2008/11/19

[#320665] Question about host, gethostbyname and getaddress — Vladimir Fekete <fekete@...>

Hi *,

11 messages 2008/11/19

[#320709] ANN: One-Click Ruby Installer 186-27 Release Candidate 2 — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...>

Hello Ruby for Windows users!

11 messages 2008/11/19

[#320811] Found a ruby bug in the URI class, what do I do? — Ben Johnson <bjohnson@...>

I'm pretty sure this is a bug, and it seem so obvious that I'm thinking

9 messages 2008/11/20

[#320908] Befunge (#184) — Matthew Moss <matt@...>

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28 messages 2008/11/22
[#321031] Re: [QUIZ] Befunge (#184) — Matthew Moss <matt@...> 2008/11/24

Hopefully the quiz isn't intimidating... It's a fairly simple language

[#321006] Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Jayson Williams" <williams.jayson@...>

Hi All,

29 messages 2008/11/24
[#321008] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Diogo Lisboa" <diogoslisboa@...> 2008/11/24

chmod a+x my_script (restrict permissions if you want)

[#321022] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Jayson Williams" <williams.jayson@...> 2008/11/24

I am using win os, so the shabang thing isn't an option for me. I put

[#321023] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...> 2008/11/24

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Jayson Williams

[#321024] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...> 2008/11/24

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@gmail.com> wrote:

[#321027] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Jayson Williams" <williams.jayson@...> 2008/11/24

The associations are correct. I reset them just to be sure though. I

[#321095] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — Daniel Schömer <daniel.schoemer@...> 2008/11/25

Jayson Williams wrote:

[#321037] Chris Pine tutorial assistance chapter 7 sort data without use of .sort method — jgheal@...

I'm learning to progam and came accross Chris Pine's Ruby Tutorial.

12 messages 2008/11/24

[#321039] Good math/stats libraries for Ruby? — Kenneth McDonald <kenneth.m.mcdonald@...>

There seem to be lots of small stats/math libraries for Ruby, but none

10 messages 2008/11/24

[#321166] time to back peddle? (Ruby 1.8.7) — Trans <transfire@...>

I just updated my Ubuntu system and was a bit surprised to find:

16 messages 2008/11/26

[#321179] How to get a reference to a block (when no explicit block parameter is used?) — Kenneth McDonald <kenneth.m.mcdonald@...>

In a function, I can find out if a block was given using block_given?,

8 messages 2008/11/26

[#321246] Performance issues with large files -- ruby vs. python :) — sa 125 <s_ayalon@...>

Hi all -

16 messages 2008/11/27
[#321248] Re: Performance issues with large files -- ruby vs. python :) — Florian Gilcher <flo@...> 2008/11/27

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[#321271] Ruby's duck typing — "stephan.zimmer" <stephan.zimmer@...>

I would like to represent certain data by a list; to this end I let

17 messages 2008/11/27

[#321287] Programming Noob Chris Pine Tutorial sorting without use of array.sort method — whisperjim <jgheal@...>

I'm working through the following tutorial http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/

10 messages 2008/11/27

[#321297] eRuby/erb outside of Rails — Jonny Noog <jonnynoog@...>

Hello,

18 messages 2008/11/28

[#321387] best gui toolkit — Warren Dulnuan <rr3800@...>

What is the best GUI toolkit for Ruby?

32 messages 2008/11/29
[#321397] Re: best gui toolkit — Vladimir Fekete <fekete@...> 2008/11/29

[#321421] Anyone scraping dynamic AJAX sites? — Becca Girl <cschall@...>

Hello.

12 messages 2008/11/30

[#321428] Enumerable#select used to return actual values — Mike Austin <"mike[nospam]"@...>

I'm pretty sure select used to use the actual value of the called block,

36 messages 2008/11/30
[#321432] Re: Enumerable#select used to return actual values — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/11/30

On 30.11.2008 04:46, Mike Austin wrote:

[#321906] Re: Enumerable#select used to return actual values — Mark Thomas <mark@...> 2008/12/04

On Nov 29, 10:46=A0pm, Mike Austin <"mike[nospam]"@mike-austin.com>

[#321912] Re: Enumerable#select used to return actual values — Trans <transfire@...> 2008/12/04

Re: Ruby's take on S.O.L.I.D.

From: Curator1 <rsilvetz@...>
Date: 2008-11-06 16:38:19 UTC
List: ruby-talk #319609
On Nov 5, 6:27=A0am, Karl von Laudermann <doodpa...@mailinator.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 4, 5:45=A0pm, Mike Lopke <reglo...@cableone.net> wrote:


>
> > For example, the typical Liskov Substitution example you see in Java ha=
s
> > the case where you have a Rectangle class and a derived Square class.
> > The Rectangle has an independent width and height. They have to be the
> > same for the Square.
>
> One guiding principle when designing a class heirarchy is that the
> class with fewer data members should be the superclass, and the class
> with more data members should be the subclass. This sometimes leads to
> cases which are counterintuitive with respect to the way we think of
> things in real life. For example, Rectangle should be a subclass of
> Square, not the other way around. This is because the Square class
> only needs one dimension member variable, e.g. "width", and the
> Rectangle subclass needs to add a second one, e.g. "height".

The guiding principle is wrong.  And it's an egregious error I keep
seeing repeated.  Lest a whole new generation of newbies follow this,
lets name the real principle involved in the design of superclasses:
abstraction based on common conceptual denominators, which in cs terms
means essential common datamembers and essential common behavior gets
aggregated to superclasses.  This has NOTHING to do with # of
datamembers.

Repeating: Superclasses are based on common conceptual denominators
(CCD)not on the number of data members.

That in many-to-most cases there are fewer datamembers in the
superclass is true, but not the guiding principle. And classically one
uses the hierarchy to enforce certain constraints based on those CCDs.
Also the simplicity of the example gives false security -- broadening
the problem in question regards general closed shapes.  For example.
if I were designing this, the hierarchy in Ruby psuedocode, to capture
the essential nature of the shapes, you have to encode that nature of
a closed polygon which means closure, no self intercept for any
enclosed area by arbitrary points.  THEN you encode regular polygon
behavior as sides of same length and then, if you need to, name
squares, pentagons, hexagons as regular polygons and rectangles and
similar as closed polygons.

Now purists will scream but "square ARE rectangles!".  Which is poor
thinking. The correct statement is "Squares and Rectangles are four-
sided closed shapes.  Squares have equal sides, rectangles do not."
As always, your *model* and its general power defines the flexibility
of your application.  Ruby pseudocode for clarity below.

class ClosedPolygon

@arrayPoints
@orientation
@anchor
def initialize(arrPoints)
    if NoSelfIntercept=3D=3Dtrue
        raise NotAClosedPolygonException
        end
    if MoreThanOneIntercept=3D=3Dtrue
        raise NotAProperPolygonException
end
def draw
end
def size
return @arrayPoints.length
end
def NoSelfIntercept
end
etc
end

class RegularPolygon < ClosedPolygon
def initialize(arrPoints)
     if checkSidesEqualLength(arrPoints)!=3Dtrue
        raise NotRegularPolygonException
     end
     @arrayPoints=3Darrpoints
end
def checkSidesEqualLength
end
end

class Square < RegularPolygon
def initialize(arrPoints)
    super.initialize(arrPoints)
    if self.size!=3D4
       raise NotASquareException
       end
end
end

class Rectangle < ClosedPolygon  # See!!!  CCD's properly
differentiate
                                 # Square from Rectangle on Essential
characteristics
etc
end

which allows of course the proper definitions of things like

class Pentagon < RegularPolygon
etc
end

class IsoTriangle < ClosedPolygon
etc
end

class EquiTriangle < RegularPolygon
etc
end

which has little to do with datamembers (most are in the superclasses)
and all to do with the common conceptual denominators of abstraction
and where behavior is properly defined.

My best to all.

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