[#319108] Iterator objects and lazy evaluation — Yuh-Ruey Chen <maian330@...>

Two questions:

14 messages 2008/11/01

[#319117] Poor performance of Ruby 1.8.7 when installed with MacPorts — abc <arcadiorubiogarcia@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2008/11/01

[#319176] Ruby for Philosophers — Sebastian Torena <citizenkant@...>

Hi there,

14 messages 2008/11/02

[#319196] ruby1.9: lazy versions of Enumerator#select and friends? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...>

I've been having a play with Enumerators in ruby 1.9, in particular

12 messages 2008/11/02

[#319239] Rake task for building latex? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...>

Does anyone know whether there's a rake task to build latex files, including

10 messages 2008/11/03

[#319319] Ruby's take on S.O.L.I.D. — Mike Lopke <reglopke@...>

I'm curious about everyone's take on Bob Martin's S.O.L.I.D. design

16 messages 2008/11/03

[#319401] Combination of numbers in an array that add up to x — Hae Lee <hae.lee.subscription@...>

Objective: Find list of values in an array that adds up to a specific

17 messages 2008/11/04

[#319404] Showing a spinner ? — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...>

How do I show a spinner on the command line interface when a ruby script

13 messages 2008/11/04

[#319440] What would you like to know about JRuby? — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>

Tom Enebo and I are putting together our JRuby presentation for

22 messages 2008/11/04

[#319532] What's the Best Way to Mimic an HTTP Request? — Daniel Miessler <daniel@...>

I'm trying to write a tool that will take a domain as an argument and

10 messages 2008/11/05

[#319546] Ruby has a Face that it wears on its feet — "Jayson Williams" <williams.jayson@...>

In my opinion, Ruby's official face should be Shoes. Shoes gives Ruby

17 messages 2008/11/05
[#319553] Re: Ruby has a Face that it wears on its feet — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/11/05

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Jayson Williams

[#319576] how to quickly find a string towards the end of a large io object — bwv549 <jtprince@...>

How do I scan starting at the end of a big io object to find a string

12 messages 2008/11/06

[#319702] Sudoku Generator (#182) — Matthew Moss <matt@...>

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14 messages 2008/11/07

[#319769] implementing mvc - using observer pattern - beginner to OOP — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Hi I started making a simple command line todo list application as a way

10 messages 2008/11/08

[#319770] what's easiest way to compare a Float & BigDecimal (i.e. like a equals mechanism) — "Greg Hauptmann" <greg.hauptmann.ruby@...>

Hi,

8 messages 2008/11/08

[#319835] Moving large amount of files, 1.750.000+ — Sebastian Newstream <abeansits@...>

Hello fellow Rubyists!

15 messages 2008/11/09
[#319837] Re: Moving large amount of files, 1.750.000+ — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/11/09

On 09.11.2008 18:04, Sebastian Newstream wrote:

[#319861] Notepad++ (no debug output, using XP) — Ed Hardy <asm.sol@...>

Notepad++ seems to be a great editor for Ruby, in XP Windows. However,

13 messages 2008/11/10

[#319902] Problem with object methods? — Carter Davis <theshakrah@...>

I recently made an object for a game I'm making. It uses the constructor

16 messages 2008/11/10
[#319908] Re: Problem with object methods? — Hugh Sasse <hgs@...> 2008/11/10

[#319911] Re: Problem with object methods? — Carter Davis <theshakrah@...> 2008/11/10

Okay, I made an example.

[#320057] Convert text string i.e 'Peter' into integer ID — Justus Ohlhaver <ohlhaver@...>

Hello,

23 messages 2008/11/12

[#320101] Issue with block and getting to local variables — Tarek Other <cashew250@...>

Ok I'm new to ruby and want to do the following, I want to define a

12 messages 2008/11/12

[#320103] Need tutoring on using a path environment variable — dkmd_nielsen <donn@...>

I don't know what to do. I have an environment variable, PW_PATH,

11 messages 2008/11/12

[#320135] '#' characters are breaking my regexp — Max Williams <toastkid.williams@...>

I'm trying to build a regexp that includes music notes, eg Bb or C#.

14 messages 2008/11/13

[#320202] Highline - question with multiple choices — szimek <szimek@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2008/11/14
[#320208] Re: Highline - question with multiple choices — James Gray <james@...> 2008/11/14

On Nov 14, 2008, at 4:23 AM, szimek wrote:

[#320270] Re: Highline - question with multiple choices — szimek <szimek@...> 2008/11/15

On 14 Lis, 14:52, James Gray <ja...@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#320213] Unit Conversion (#183) — Matthew Moss <matt@...>

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37 messages 2008/11/14

[#320280] IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — Chad Perrin <perrin@...>

I'm working on something that operates on each line of a file

22 messages 2008/11/15
[#320283] Re: IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — Tim Hunter <TimHunter@...> 2008/11/15

Chad Perrin wrote:

[#320286] Re: IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — Chad Perrin <perrin@...> 2008/11/15

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 02:27:45AM +0900, Tim Hunter wrote:

[#320287] Re: IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — "Michael Guterl" <mguterl@...> 2008/11/15

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:

[#320288] Re: IO#lineno= doesn't work the way I expected — "Michael Guterl" <mguterl@...> 2008/11/15

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Michael Guterl <mguterl@gmail.com> wrote:

[#320359] Why does tmail stop my CGI script form working? — Chad Perrin <perrin@...>

I decided to try TMail for the back end of a new contact page on a

14 messages 2008/11/17

[#320370] How can I overload a method in Ruby — Zhao Yi <youhaodeyi@...>

This is my class definition:

19 messages 2008/11/17
[#320374] Re: How can I overload a method in Ruby — Einar Magn俍 Boson <einarmagnus@...> 2008/11/17

there is no overloading, only overriding.

[#320417] How to extract links of a particular class type — "Sita Rami Reddy" <sitaramireddy@...>

I have a web page which has n number of links.

11 messages 2008/11/17

[#320446] function to select only certain key/value pairs from hash? — Aryk Grosz <tennisbum2002@...>

Whenever Im coding I usually come across having to create a new hash

14 messages 2008/11/17

[#320482] I don't like specs, should I change my point of view ? — Zouplaz <user@...>

Hello, I'm not trolling. I don't like specs (RSpec) : everytime I had a

18 messages 2008/11/18

[#320500] Should is the new Must? — Trans <transfire@...>

Why did 'should' become the going nomenclature of BDD framworks?

21 messages 2008/11/18

[#320553] Syntax question from a newbie to Ruby — David Spitzer <davidspitzer@...>

I am just learning Ruby and I can not seem to see why the first example

12 messages 2008/11/18

[#320655] build hash by iterating — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>

I am building a hash this way:

15 messages 2008/11/19

[#320665] Question about host, gethostbyname and getaddress — Vladimir Fekete <fekete@...>

Hi *,

11 messages 2008/11/19

[#320709] ANN: One-Click Ruby Installer 186-27 Release Candidate 2 — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...>

Hello Ruby for Windows users!

11 messages 2008/11/19

[#320811] Found a ruby bug in the URI class, what do I do? — Ben Johnson <bjohnson@...>

I'm pretty sure this is a bug, and it seem so obvious that I'm thinking

9 messages 2008/11/20

[#320908] Befunge (#184) — Matthew Moss <matt@...>

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28 messages 2008/11/22
[#321031] Re: [QUIZ] Befunge (#184) — Matthew Moss <matt@...> 2008/11/24

Hopefully the quiz isn't intimidating... It's a fairly simple language

[#321006] Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Jayson Williams" <williams.jayson@...>

Hi All,

29 messages 2008/11/24
[#321008] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Diogo Lisboa" <diogoslisboa@...> 2008/11/24

chmod a+x my_script (restrict permissions if you want)

[#321022] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Jayson Williams" <williams.jayson@...> 2008/11/24

I am using win os, so the shabang thing isn't an option for me. I put

[#321023] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...> 2008/11/24

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Jayson Williams

[#321024] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...> 2008/11/24

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@gmail.com> wrote:

[#321027] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — "Jayson Williams" <williams.jayson@...> 2008/11/24

The associations are correct. I reset them just to be sure though. I

[#321095] Re: Can you run a command line script with arguments, without typing 'ruby' first? — Daniel Schömer <daniel.schoemer@...> 2008/11/25

Jayson Williams wrote:

[#321037] Chris Pine tutorial assistance chapter 7 sort data without use of .sort method — jgheal@...

I'm learning to progam and came accross Chris Pine's Ruby Tutorial.

12 messages 2008/11/24

[#321039] Good math/stats libraries for Ruby? — Kenneth McDonald <kenneth.m.mcdonald@...>

There seem to be lots of small stats/math libraries for Ruby, but none

10 messages 2008/11/24

[#321166] time to back peddle? (Ruby 1.8.7) — Trans <transfire@...>

I just updated my Ubuntu system and was a bit surprised to find:

16 messages 2008/11/26

[#321179] How to get a reference to a block (when no explicit block parameter is used?) — Kenneth McDonald <kenneth.m.mcdonald@...>

In a function, I can find out if a block was given using block_given?,

8 messages 2008/11/26

[#321246] Performance issues with large files -- ruby vs. python :) — sa 125 <s_ayalon@...>

Hi all -

16 messages 2008/11/27
[#321248] Re: Performance issues with large files -- ruby vs. python :) — Florian Gilcher <flo@...> 2008/11/27

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[#321271] Ruby's duck typing — "stephan.zimmer" <stephan.zimmer@...>

I would like to represent certain data by a list; to this end I let

17 messages 2008/11/27

[#321287] Programming Noob Chris Pine Tutorial sorting without use of array.sort method — whisperjim <jgheal@...>

I'm working through the following tutorial http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/

10 messages 2008/11/27

[#321297] eRuby/erb outside of Rails — Jonny Noog <jonnynoog@...>

Hello,

18 messages 2008/11/28

[#321387] best gui toolkit — Warren Dulnuan <rr3800@...>

What is the best GUI toolkit for Ruby?

32 messages 2008/11/29
[#321397] Re: best gui toolkit — Vladimir Fekete <fekete@...> 2008/11/29

[#321421] Anyone scraping dynamic AJAX sites? — Becca Girl <cschall@...>

Hello.

12 messages 2008/11/30

[#321428] Enumerable#select used to return actual values — Mike Austin <"mike[nospam]"@...>

I'm pretty sure select used to use the actual value of the called block,

36 messages 2008/11/30
[#321432] Re: Enumerable#select used to return actual values — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/11/30

On 30.11.2008 04:46, Mike Austin wrote:

[#321906] Re: Enumerable#select used to return actual values — Mark Thomas <mark@...> 2008/12/04

On Nov 29, 10:46=A0pm, Mike Austin <"mike[nospam]"@mike-austin.com>

[#321912] Re: Enumerable#select used to return actual values — Trans <transfire@...> 2008/12/04

Re: ruby1.9: lazy versions of Enumerator#select and friends?

From: Brian Candler <b.candler@...>
Date: 2008-11-03 08:55:40 UTC
List: ruby-talk #319236
David A. Black wrote:
> This is the feature that disappeared -- definitely not identical to
> what you're doing, but kind of germane:
> 
>    a = [1,2,3,4].enum_for(:map, &lambda {|x| x * 10})
>    a.select {|x| x > 20 }   # [30,40]

OK, I think I see what you're saying now, except I'm not sure exactly 
how ':map' interacts with this.

If this code calls the existing 'map' method, then does that mean that 
'map' also behaved differently when invoked via an Enumerator? (Because 
otherwise, 'map' normally builds the entire result array up-front). How 
did 'map' know whether it was being called in this context or not?

Using current ruby-1.9 you would write something like

  a = [1,2,3,4]
  Enumerator.new do |y|
    a.each { |e| y << e * 10 }
  end.select { |x| x > 20 }

but you can see I've had to write the 'map' logic in-line.

> True, but that doesn't take newly-written enumerable classes, and
> there are a few overrides here and there (like Hash#select returning a
> hash, in 1.9).

Ah, well that's a bit messy. Taking that mess a bit further, I guess you 
could arrange for Array#select similarly to be hardcoded always to 
return an Array? Hmm.

> I'm still not sure I'd like to have to do a kind of
> enumerator-resolving last call to every map, select, inject, etc. It's
> different with each, because it exists only for its block side-effects
> in the first place. The ones that return result sets that you care
> about would all have to be "capped" with to_a or something, unless the
> last method in the chain somehow knew not to return an enumerator.

Maybe we're actually discussing my option #3 - which was to change 
Enumerable#select to return an Enumerator.

My option #2 was that Enumerator#select return an Enumerator, in the 
same way that Hash#select returns a Hash as you just described.

That is:

  class Enumerator
    def select
      ... etc
    end
  end

Then foo.select { ... } would always return an Array (via 
Enumerable#select), unless foo was an Enumerator (in which case it would 
return an Enumerator), or a Hash (in which case it would return a Hash)

The 'capping' would only be needed if you create an Enumerator in the 
chain.

> I wonder what role what I have dubbed the "un-overriding" of
> enumerable methods would play. Here's an example:
> 
>>> hash = { 1 => 2 }
> => {1=>2}
>>> hash.select { true }
> => {1=>2}
>>> hash.each.select { true }
> => [[1, 2]]
> 
> Since Enumerator doesn't override select (which of course it can't, in
> a general way), calling select on an enumerator for the hash has a
> different effect from calling select on the hash.

Yes, I see what you're saying.

But actually I'm proposing that hash.each.select return another 
Enumerator. So you can cap it with a 'to_hash' method at the end to get 
the same result:

require 'lazy'
class Enumerator
  def to_hash
    each_with_object({}) { |(k,v),o| o[k] = v }
  end
end
hash = {1=>2}
p hash.lselect { true }            #=> #<Enumerator:0x8321f60>
p hash.lselect { true }.to_hash    #=> {1=>2}

As you say, arguably it's tedious to have to stick .to_a or .to_hash at 
the end, but once you have an Enumerator, you have (a) lost the memory 
of what it is you created it from, and (b) quite probably don't want to 
create the same thing again anyway - for example, sticking each { ... } 
at the end of the chain so as to consume the items rather than build a 
new object.

So I think I'm warming to the middle ground: Enumerator#foo returns an 
Enumerator, so Enumerators chain together, and if at the end of it you 
really want an array (or a hash or whatever) rather than an Enumerator, 
then you add .to_a or .to_hash

But equally, if you call Array#select or Hash#select directly, without 
first "priming" the chain with an Enumerator object, then you get back 
another Array or Hash immediately.

It makes sense when you understand it, although someone who didn't 
understand this might have difficulty distinguishing

  [10,20,30].select { ... }.map { ... }.each { ... }
from
  [10,20,30].each.select { ... }.map { ... }.each { ... }

I think that 'each without a block' is not necessarily a good way of 
flagging 'make me an enumerator'; writing to_enum would be clearer.

Actually, I have to say that I can't really see the purpose of 'map 
without a block', 'select without a block'. I saw a posting showing how 
you could chain

   foo.select.with_index { |x,i| ... }

but surely that would be clearer as

   foo.with_index.select { |x,i| ... }

(where 'with_index' creates an Enumerator which adds the index for you)

Unless there's a good use for this which I've overlooked, I'd be happy 
for Ruby to go back to 1.8.6 behaviour of each/map/select *requiring* a 
block. In that case, my earlier example would have to be written

  [10,20,30].to_enum.select { ... }.map { ... }.each { ... }

which is pretty clear (to me :-)

Regards,

Brian.
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