From: "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@...>
Date: 2008-11-07T04:48:11+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby has a Face that it wears on its feet

Lloyd Linklater wrote:
> Kyle Hunter wrote:
>> Jayson Williams wrote:
>>> How about a melding of the two?
>> Giving shoes an official place in the Ruby language hierarchy would open 
>> up a new world for desktop application programming for Ruby.
> 
> That would not be appropriate.  Ruby is a language.  Making a specific 
> gui library part of the language would be mixing things that should not 
> be mixed *on that level*.
> 

Business Basic has built in screen and file handling, and is over 25 
years old.  I like not having to include libraries to handle the screen 
and files.  The other advantage is that the same program runs under AIX 
and DOS/Windows with no changes.  I can even move the files between the 
two without any conversion.
Maybe what is needed is a subversion of Ruby, much like other languages 
have split from a core, that includes things like the screen and file 
handling.

> That said, I *would* like a development environment that includes 
> standardized gui libraries, and shoes seems fine.