From: Mike Stok <mike@...>
Date: 2008-11-08T05:41:40+09:00
Subject: Re: Rails book wanted for non Ruby programmer

David Black's "Ruby for Rails" is a good way for people developing  
Rails apps to get a better understanding of Ruby the language.

Mike

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On 7-Nov-08, at 15:18, "Rupert Voelcker" <rupert@rupespad.com> wrote:

> 2008/11/7 Aaron Gray <ang.usenet@gmail.com>:
>> Yeah, I really would prefer a) a book that is not tainted by PHP  
>> references
>> (should have said) b) is recomended by a reader.
>
> I started off with the Pragmatic Programmers "Agile Web Development
> with Rails".  It goes through the building of a sample application and
> has a pretty good reference section in it too. (I've not tried any
> other rails starter books so can't offer any comparisons)
>
> Although I do agree with Michael in that learning ruby is a good idea
> first, if you have good programming experience and aren't wanting to
> build a complex site to start off with then you can get away with not
> worrying too much about learning ruby first.  However, your code is
> not likely to be particularly great - it's likely to be more like php
> written in a ruby syntax rather than nicely honed ruby.  If you're not
> too concerned about this and happy to learn to improve your ruby as
> you go along then I'd say dive in.  But to understand what the
> framework is doing or to write decent code for your app then learning
> ruby itself is essential.  Be prepared to have to do a major re-write
> of any site you've developed pre-learning-ruby once you've started to
> understand it better.
>
> I (and I imagine many others) started by playing with rails, then fell
> in love with ruby, then started on the path towards ruby
> enlightenment.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Rupert
>
>