From: Michael Morin Date: 2008-11-09T15:56:41+09:00 Subject: Re: Rails book wanted for non Ruby programmer ------=_Part_81101_31574510.1226213935912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline "Ruby for Rails" is horribly outdated and perhaps not the best approach to the problem. He is working on a new book though. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > David Black's "Ruby for Rails" is a good way for people developing Rails > apps to get a better understanding of Ruby the language. > > Mike > > -- > Mike Stok > http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ > The "'Stok' disclaimers" apply. > > > > On 7-Nov-08, at 15:18, "Rupert Voelcker" wrote: > > 2008/11/7 Aaron Gray : >> >>> Yeah, I really would prefer a) a book that is not tainted by PHP >>> references >>> (should have said) b) is recomended by a reader. >>> >> >> I started off with the Pragmatic Programmers "Agile Web Development >> with Rails". It goes through the building of a sample application and >> has a pretty good reference section in it too. (I've not tried any >> other rails starter books so can't offer any comparisons) >> >> Although I do agree with Michael in that learning ruby is a good idea >> first, if you have good programming experience and aren't wanting to >> build a complex site to start off with then you can get away with not >> worrying too much about learning ruby first. However, your code is >> not likely to be particularly great - it's likely to be more like php >> written in a ruby syntax rather than nicely honed ruby. If you're not >> too concerned about this and happy to learn to improve your ruby as >> you go along then I'd say dive in. But to understand what the >> framework is doing or to write decent code for your app then learning >> ruby itself is essential. Be prepared to have to do a major re-write >> of any site you've developed pre-learning-ruby once you've started to >> understand it better. >> >> I (and I imagine many others) started by playing with rails, then fell >> in love with ruby, then started on the path towards ruby >> enlightenment. >> >> Hope this helps >> >> Rupert >> >> >> > ------=_Part_81101_31574510.1226213935912--