[#303658] Remove Parts of a String — Dan __ <major_general_joe@...>

Alright, this is probably a really simple question to answer, but I just

15 messages 2008/06/01

[#303876] deleting first line from a file — suresh <suresh.amritapuri@...>

Hi

16 messages 2008/06/03

[#303934] Module philosophy — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...>

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but to confirm: the only way to mix a

12 messages 2008/06/04

[#303941] A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — Mc Mohd <mcmohd@...>

This tutorial gives you complete knowledge starting from basic to

23 messages 2008/06/04
[#303943] Re: A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — Davi Vidal <davividal@...> 2008/06/04

Em Wednesday 04 June 2008, Mc Mohd escreveu:

[#303945] Re: A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — Mc Mohd <mcmohd@...> 2008/06/04

Sorry pal missed to send URL. Its here:

[#303947] Re: A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — "Oscar Del Ben" <thehcdreamer@...> 2008/06/04

Thanks for your work ;)

[#303948] Re: A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...> 2008/06/04

This tutorial looks strangely familiar!

[#303957] A crosspost from the Perl Community — Star Cross <starx@...>

All,

55 messages 2008/06/04
[#303983] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — David Masover <ninja@...> 2008/06/04

On Wednesday 04 June 2008 12:20:37 Star Cross wrote:

[#304212] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — Jenda Krynicky <jenda@...> 2008/06/06

David Masover wrote:

[#304303] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — David Masover <ninja@...> 2008/06/07

On Friday 06 June 2008 12:02:19 Jenda Krynicky wrote:

[#305043] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — Jenda Krynicky <jenda@...> 2008/06/13

David Masover wrote:

[#304075] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — Dave Bass <davebass@...> 2008/06/05

Coming to Ruby recently from Perl, these are my comments.

[#304084] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — "Eric Mahurin" <eric.mahurin@...> 2008/06/05

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Dave Bass <davebass@musician.org> wrote:

[#304175] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — Dave Bass <davebass@...> 2008/06/06

Eric Mahurin wrote:

[#304217] Preferable Pairs (#165) — "Matthew Moss" <matthew.moss@...>

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17 messages 2008/06/06

[#304230] Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — "Israel Guerra" <israel.guerra@...>

Hail everyone!

60 messages 2008/06/06
[#304237] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/06/06

Israel Guerra wrote:

[#304241] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/06/06

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#304242] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — "Israel Guerra" <israel.guerra@...> 2008/06/06

But guys, maybe im wrong about jruby, but its a ruby interpreter running in

[#304271] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — "Victor Reyes" <victor.reyes@...> 2008/06/07

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter <

[#304240] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/06/06

Israel Guerra wrote:

[#304309] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@...> 2008/06/07

James Britt wrote:

[#304284] using portions of other methods in a new method — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>

How do you take a piece of a method and use it in another? Here is my

10 messages 2008/06/07

[#304353] Ruby wishlist — jzakiya <jzakiya@...>

You can do this:

23 messages 2008/06/08

[#304443] my first program just shuttin' down — Ruby Noob <john_@...>

Why? I tryin' to open the "hello.rb" program, but it just shuttin' down

12 messages 2008/06/08

[#304541] Ruby vs JRuby Performance — "Victor Reyes" <victor.reyes@...>

I knew that there was a penalty to be paid when running JRuby, but I did not

20 messages 2008/06/09

[#304623] Random Number Stuff — David Stanislaus <stanislaus_d@...>

How would you create a random number generator thats limited to a

17 messages 2008/06/10

[#304640] accessing class variables from the outside (beginner question) — progcat@...

I am still learning Ruby and I am trying to get something

12 messages 2008/06/10

[#304662] webby, ubuntu and gems — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...>

I've recently switched distributions to ubuntu, and I'm having

15 messages 2008/06/10

[#304728] Basic Tree Data Structure — Justin To <tekmc@...>

class Tree

14 messages 2008/06/10
[#304738] Re: Basic Tree Data Structure — Justin To <tekmc@...> 2008/06/10

class Tree

[#304790] Trie data structure — Justin To <tekmc@...>

I'm trying to implement a trie data structure for my parsing program

17 messages 2008/06/10
[#304826] Re: Trie data structure — Dave Bass <davebass@...> 2008/06/11

Justin To wrote:

[#304825] each with else — Thorsten Mler <thorsten@80beans.com>

Hi all,

11 messages 2008/06/11

[#304875] write byte array to file — "Rajesh Olafson" <rolafson@...>

Helo

16 messages 2008/06/11

[#304960] Help with Ruby under cygwin — James Byrne <byrnejb@...>

In order to use git on my laptop (MS XPproSP3) I ended up installing the

23 messages 2008/06/12

[#304992] a simple patch for the ri utility — Daniel Choi <dhchoi@...>

Hi everyone

15 messages 2008/06/12

[#305021] array to string conversion — Clement Ow <clement.ow@...>

Hi, I have 2 arrays(which is part of the hash):

13 messages 2008/06/13

[#305058] Circle Drawing (#166) — "Matthew Moss" <matthew.moss@...>

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19 messages 2008/06/13

[#305100] Documenting Networking in Ruby. Any volunteer — "Victor Reyes" <victor.reyes@...>

Team,

10 messages 2008/06/13

[#305104] raise and rescue — Misiek Sz <nicpon@...>

Is is possible to raise an exception then rescue it and then go back to

13 messages 2008/06/13

[#305160] What was YOUR first Ruby Project — Eric Hegwer <ehegwer@...>

I though it be cool to hear what your first experience with Ruby was.

26 messages 2008/06/14

[#305227] why can't an instance instantiated within a class method access a protected instance method? — "Greg Hauptmann" <greg.hauptmann.ruby@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2008/06/15
[#305228] Re: why can't an instance instantiated within a class method access a protected instance method? — "Greg Hauptmann" <greg.hauptmann.ruby@...> 2008/06/15

(complete email)Hi,

[#305230] How !isset in Ruby — Alexey Tafintsev <alexey@...>

Hello people!

21 messages 2008/06/15
[#305238] Re: How !isset in Ruby — Martin Boese <boesemar@...> 2008/06/15

[#305241] Re: How !isset in Ruby — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/06/15

On 15.06.2008 14:37, Martin Boese wrote:

[#305268] little problem (google hiring puzzle) — ex <exeQtor@...>

Hi guys, I wonder if someone can find a pure ruby solution instead of

43 messages 2008/06/15

[#305334] How to Authenticate against the Windows NT Domain via Ruby — ChessMess <chessmess@...>

We are running a Rails application on Linux RedHat with a requirement

12 messages 2008/06/16

[#305377] print(true and true) #=> the parenthesis issue — hakunin <madfancier@...>

The parenthesis have been discussed before, but maybe this is another

31 messages 2008/06/17

[#305398] Can I find out the memory used by an object? — "Robert Hulme" <robert.hulme@...>

I'm 99% sure the answer to that question is no, but I thought I'd ask anyway :-)

15 messages 2008/06/17

[#305446] parsing text into usablle numerical data — Cthulhu __ <weedmasterp@...>

Hey total ruby n00b here...

13 messages 2008/06/17

[#305467] quick question about how array objects are handled — Chance Dinkins <chanceusc@...>

Btw, thanks in advance for any help - this community seems great!

11 messages 2008/06/17

[#305557] Rather validate values or use exceptions? — Joshua Muheim <forum@...>

Hi all

12 messages 2008/06/18

[#305605] Presentation on Ruby, require suggestions — "Srijayanth Sridhar" <srijayanth@...>

Hello,

14 messages 2008/06/19

[#305635] Why metaclasses? — "James Coglan" <jcoglan@...>

Hello all,

15 messages 2008/06/19

[#305727] Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...>

Hi all.

91 messages 2008/06/20
[#305893] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/23

All versions of MRI Ruby that claim to fix the vulnerabilities are

[#305934] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Hongli Lai <hongli@...> 2008/06/23

Hi guys. Igal invited me to join this discussion.

[#305936] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/23

Hongli Lai wrote:

[#305943] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Hongli Lai <hongli@...> 2008/06/23

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#305956] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/23

Hongli Lai wrote:

[#306045] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/24

We have another potential winning solution!

[#306072] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Robert Thau <rst@...> 2008/06/24

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#306135] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/24

Robert Thau wrote:

[#306137] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — "Dominic Sisneros" <dsisnero@...> 2008/06/25

Maybe you should try posting a issue on the new redmine bug tracker

[#306139] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/25

Dominic Sisneros wrote:

[#306214] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Jason Crystal <jcrystal@...> 2008/06/25

Just wanted to say that we all appreciate those fixes you guys have been

[#306516] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Cheri Anaclerio <canaclerio@...> 2008/06/29

Could somebody please explain how to apply the Smartleaf Stanislav and

[#307002] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Doug Alcorn <dougalcorn@...> 2008/07/02

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#305751] Regular expressions and long text — Guillermo.Acilu@...

Hello guys,

15 messages 2008/06/20

[#305810] Where does ruby excel? — Dolazy <francis.rammeloo@...>

I have only used ruby for writing little scripts. Things that are

14 messages 2008/06/21

[#305844] Initial release of amalgalite - v0.1.0 — Jeremy Hinegardner <jeremy@...>

Amalgalite embeds the SQLite database engine in a ruby extension.

13 messages 2008/06/21

[#305854] KABLAME! 0.2.1 Released — "Jacob Dunphy" <jacob.dunphy@...>

This is the first "announced release" of KABLAME!

13 messages 2008/06/22

[#305855] RubyGems 1.2.0 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

= Announce: RubyGems Release 1.2.0

49 messages 2008/06/22

[#305882] Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I use Logger class in a programm and since I need to log in lot of=20

49 messages 2008/06/22
[#305884] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/06/22

I単aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#305885] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/22

El Lunes, 23 de Junio de 2008, Suraj Kurapati escribi=C3=B3:

[#305886] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/06/23

I単aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#305888] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/23

El Lunes, 23 de Junio de 2008, Suraj Kurapati escribi=C3=B3:

[#306058] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Andrea Fazzi <andrea.fazzi@...> 2008/06/24

I単aki Baz Castillo ha scritto:

[#306066] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/24

El Martes, 24 de Junio de 2008, Andrea Fazzi escribi=C3=B3:

[#306161] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Robert Klemme" <shortcutter@...> 2008/06/25

2008/6/24 I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>:

[#306168] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2008/06/25

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Robert Klemme

[#306176] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Andrea Fazzi <andrea.fazzi@...> 2008/06/25

Robert Dober ha scritto:

[#306180] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2008/06/25

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Andrea Fazzi <andrea.fazzi@alca.le.it> wro=

[#306288] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)" <shot@...> 2008/06/26

I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo:

[#306351] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/26

El Jueves, 26 de Junio de 2008, Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) escribi=C3=B3:

[#306387] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)" <shot@...> 2008/06/27

I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo:

[#306416] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/27

El Viernes, 27 de Junio de 2008, Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) escribi=C3=B3:

[#306499] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)" <shot@...> 2008/06/28

I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo:

[#306501] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2008/06/28

[#306085] Sequel primary keys — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...>

I posted to the Sequel Google Group but it's horribly slow, assuming it took

16 messages 2008/06/24

[#306088] Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...>

People,

35 messages 2008/06/24
[#306095] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Rob Biedenharn <Rob@...> 2008/06/24

On Jun 24, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

[#306225] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...> 2008/06/25

Rob,

[#306237] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2008/06/26

[#306243] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...> 2008/06/26

Chuck,

[#306255] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Rob Biedenharn <Rob@...> 2008/06/26

On Jun 25, 2008, at 8:44 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

[#306333] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2008/06/26

On 26 Jun 2008, at 04:24, Rob Biedenharn wrote:

[#306345] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...> 2008/06/26

Eleanor,

[#306350] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2008/06/26

On 26 Jun 2008, at 20:47, Philip Rhoades wrote:

[#306357] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...> 2008/06/26

Ellie,

[#306368] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2008/06/27

On 26 Jun 2008, at 22:51, Philip Rhoades wrote:

[#306234] A cleaner way to pass a block or proc — "Tristin Davis" <tristin.colby@...>

Is there a cleaner way to implement my add_notifier method?

15 messages 2008/06/25
[#306236] Re: A cleaner way to pass a block or proc — Ben Bleything <ben@...> 2008/06/26

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008, Tristin Davis wrote:

[#306245] Re: A cleaner way to pass a block or proc — "Tristin Davis" <tristin.colby@...> 2008/06/26

Thanks Ben. That worked perfect. No other changes required in the class. :)

[#306331] question about defined? and y — Ruby Freak <twscannell@...>

The defined? keyword seems to have some funky behaviors.

19 messages 2008/06/26

[#306420] Statistician I (#167) — "Matthew Moss" <matthew.moss@...>

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13 messages 2008/06/27

[#306448] changing the shebang of ruby files best way ? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

I've a lot of ruby files (grabed from net) having a wrong shebang for my

18 messages 2008/06/27
[#306505] Re: changing the shebang of ruby files best way ? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/28

[#306524] Random Generation of Characters — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...>

How could you generate a list of all possible combination's of lowercase

12 messages 2008/06/29

[#306533] mysterious memory corruption, very confused — Seebs <usenet-nospam@...>

ruby 1.8.7-p22, OS X 10.4.mumble, PostgreSQL 8.3.1, ruby-pg 2008-03-18.

11 messages 2008/06/29

[#306547] Recursive Logic - Examples and Resources? — Dan __ <major_general_joe@...>

Hey all,

13 messages 2008/06/29

[#306620] Threads and Ruby — barjunk <barjunk@...>

I've been hunting around for information regarding threads, and to me,

35 messages 2008/06/30
[#306621] Re: Threads and Ruby — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2008/06/30

[#306701] nested methods good or bad design — John Maclean <jayeola@...>

=begin

15 messages 2008/06/30

[#306728] how to - quickly make permutations? — Max Williams <toastkid.williams@...>

can anyone provide an elegant implementation for this method?

18 messages 2008/06/30
[#306761] Re: how to - quickly make permutations? — Frederick Cheung <frederick.cheung@...> 2008/06/30

[#306778] Re: how to - quickly make permutations? — "jim finucane" <jimrails@...> 2008/07/01

each new element tries to double the size of the list

Re: Can your GUI framework do this?

From: Logan Barnett <logustus@...>
Date: 2008-06-25 21:44:12 UTC
List: ruby-talk #306221
Martin,
I'm one of the contributors to Monkeybars, which is our JRuby GUI  
framework that sits on top of Swing.
Here's how Monkeybars handles this:
1. A component consisting of a series of existing components hooked
together to act as a single widget
In Swing, it is typical to inherit from the component that gets you  
closest to what you want, and add stuff to there. What you are  
thinking of is probably a JPanel. While you could inherit from a  
JPanel, put in the functionality or other components that you wanted,  
and drop it in where you wanted to use it, we feel there's a better  
way. Monkeybars uses MVC's delegation of responsibilities to help us  
out with testing and  keep the code more sensible. As such, we felt  
the best way to approach this would be by providing mechanisms that  
allow one MVC tuple (your top level window) to nest other MVC tuples  
(reusable components). This means that controllers communicate with  
other controllers. Views interact with simple view components  
directly, but not complicated "partials".
Here's your example: An icon widget, that combines  a picture and a  
textfield
underneath, with config options to turn either off or size the image,
make the text editable, etc"

In Monkeybars, the picture/text field grouping would be handled by its  
own model, view, and controller. This is how you'd tie that in:
class MainView < ApplicationView
   # nesting defines how the component will be added or removed when  
add_nested_controller or
   # remove_nested_controller is called. This nesting is one of the  
simpler ones that just drops in the
   # component as is. There are more complicated variations that allow  
you to write all code you want to
   # determine layout specific arguments, positioning, and layout  
validation.
   nest :sub_view => :image_name, :view => :image_name_panel
end

class MainController < ApplicationController
   def load
     @text_image_controller = TextImageController.create_instance
     # this will kick off the nesting for any nesting with a sub_view  
of :image_name
     add_nested_controller :image_name, @text_image_controller
   end
end

2. A component built 'from scratch' atop a canvas, that is, handling
its own drawing and event management
Since we're using Swing, one could override the paintComponent method  
on the Swing component used in the view. We've done some of this to  
render real-time animated graphs with peak bars and graph transitions.  
We even have it so each graph bar has it's own tooltip text.
Here's your example: A speedometer-type dial with a configurable range  
and tick interval
In this case, I'd write my own view component by hand (typically we  
use a designer for it).
A speedometer could be made by using some of the Java2D stuff out  
there during paintComponent. The needle could be drawn with simple  
line methods where you specify start and end coordinates. The ticks  
could be drawn similarly as partial lines. I'd imagine some trig would  
be involved in the calculations. I would also check to see if any Java  
folks had already done this, as Java/Swing have been around for a long  
time.

3. A component combining a canvas and existing widgets
I'd want to make the painted canvas widget into a nested controller,  
so my canvas wouldn't have to care about stomping on other components  
when it redraws itself.
For your example: A box that holds a component and paints a customised  
border around it
This is actually pretty simple in Monkeybars. You can just set the  
boarder of many (if not all) Swing components. We have a live example  
using this that you can run via Java Web Start here:
http://www.happycamperstudios.com/monkeybars/twit/Twit-and-Twitter.jnlp
Here's the snippet that makes the drop-shadow border happen:
@image = Java::javax.swing.JLabel.new
@image.border = Java::org.jdesktop.swingx.border.DropShadowBorder.new
The drop shadow comes from the SwingX library.
I'd also like to note that example won us the GUI part of the script  
bowl competition at Java One (us being JRuby).
4. A container that takes a collection of widgets and lays them out
according to some userdefined algorithm
There's a ton of ways to do this using Swing using Layouts.
Your example: A pure-ruby implementation of a wrapbox
(http://zem.novylen.net/ruby/wrapboxdemo.png)
This works out of the box just by using a FlowLayout in your  
container. That can be as simple as this:
@main_view_component.layout = Java::javax::swing::FlowLayout.new

Some other stuff:
Monkeybars has a lot of options for configuring view mappings. View  
mappings define how data moves from your model to the components in  
your view, as well as how your components' data moves into your model.

One thing that was really important to us in Monkeybars was that for  
moderate to large projects, a large update method in a controller that  
intimately knew about the components used made testing incredibly  
painful. We designed Monkeybars such that most communication between  
the view and controller is done through the model via the mappings  
mentioned above. Controllers may also send signals to the view for  
lightweight or secondary renderings. There is no direct communication,  
however. This makes testing super easy.

You _could_ write Java if you wanted, but we haven't run into  
occurrences where Java (the language) is needed. You could write all  
of your designs by hand in Ruby, which is fine. My preferred approach  
is to use a designer tool, such as Netbeans.
Do you really want to lay something like this out by hand?
http://www.happycamperstudios.com/monkeybars/charlotte%20interface.png


Swing is a part of Monkeybars. We provide some simplified ways to  
communicate with it (such as implicit event handlers). However,  
Monkeybars doesn't shield you from Swing. This is both a pro and a  
con. Swing is a powerful library, but it also has a lot of quirks.  
Thanks to the folks at JRuby, we have Rubyized methods to all of our  
Java proxies, and some nice implicit type conversions that make  
integrating with Java look fairly natural. Monkeybars just makes Swing  
more palatable, and provides a nice quarantine zone to place all of  
your Swing code (in the view).

You're in JRuby, and that means you're in Java. Java buys you a built- 
in JIT engine. JRuby's team has told everyone to flag occurrences  
where MRI is faster as bugs. You also can run your code on any machine  
with Java installed, and it's hard to find machines without Java.  
Monkeybars itself is just a jar that happens to be a library. No Ruby  
installation is needed! Leveraging Rawr you can also wrap your jars  
in .exes or .app files. You can even use Java Web Start to hand  
someone a link and the app will auto-install/update and run. You could  
also integrate Monkeybars into your existing Java app, and start  
writing all of your new code in Ruby. Java also has a lot of mature  
code out there, as it has been around for a long time. One personal  
experience I had was using SNMP. Ruby's SNMP library is great for  
getting you started, but falls apart when you need to use the more  
secure SNMPv3. SNMP4J has been around for a while, and is still active.

I know a lot of the Ruby community has some bitterness towards Java,  
but this isn't Java the language we're using here, it's Java the  
platform. I encourage anyone interested in GUI development to take a  
peak at our examples and screencasts:
http://monkeybars.rubyforge.org/
http://monkeybars.rubyforge.org/tutorials.html

-Logan 

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